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Why is it ok to be filmed and face recognized by surveillance cameras on train station but it is wrong when Facebook does it? In my opinion I don’t need to use
by mirko22 8y ago
Why is it ok to be filmed and face recognized by surveillance cameras on train station but it is wrong when Facebook does it?
In my opinion I don’t need to use facebook and give them my data voluntarily but I kinda need to use the train and nobody is asking me for right to do face recognition.
- ethanwillis 8y agoWhataboutism. Both are wrong.
- mirko22 8y agowhataboutism? sorry, what? i thought taking precedents was standard practice in law...
- lhopki01 8y agoThis isn't about law. It's about what people consider acceptable. Also precedence is really only a thing in common law countries (mostly the english speaking world) and not most countries in the world.
- mirko22 8y agoI was not talking about the law, but about similar cases where face recouia used without consent...
- foepys 8y agoOther people (aka your friends and family) are uploading your data to Facebook regardless. You don't have a choice both times and both are bad.
- mirko22 8y agouploading my images, specially taken on public ground, is not in any way illegal. And i am unable to influence if someone will put them on facebook or upload them to porn sites or use them as meme on 9gag... if my picture ends up on random site and gets picked up by robot that does face recognition what can i do about it?
- slenk 8y agoWho said it was OK to be face-recognized at train-stations? I don't think that is/should be right either
- mirko22 8y agoGermany did yet you don’t see people making a fuss about it. As much as I hate Facebook I think a lot of people just complain about it cos it so high profile. But if you don’t care about privacy everywhere, what does make Facebook special case?
- gmueckl 8y agoPeople certainly made a fuss about the face recognition trial in the train station. But we Germans seem to be irrationally against data collection by companies compared to government data collection. Google street view was another case that made this apparent.
- mirko22 8y agoExactly my point, personally i am much more worried about government surveillance, my point was that facebook is an optional thing and very little people really need it (places where facebook is internet) as compared to real environment around you in which you live. And to me that is really surprising, GDPR allow government almost free hands when it comes to data collection, which for me is the scary part. i might be going around this the long way but english is not my strong side.
- gmueckl 8y agoThe requirement to use facebook is not a legal one, but a social one defined by friends and family members who insist on using it (a.k.a. the networking effect). In theory, governments can define and implement draconian checks on how collected data is processed by itself. People seem to trust that theoretical ability more than companies claiming to implement rigorous standards, but can do so without direct outside oversight or control. This is independent of whether it is actually true.