It's not about technology. It's about consensus building processes, which are necessary to collaboratively work around an idea. It is fine to spend time discus

It's not about technology. It's about consensus building processes, which are necessary to collaboratively work around an idea. It is fine to spend time discussing and building consensus. And it is fine if your idea doesn't prevail. But the most important thing is how an idea prevails in a conversation. If an idea prevails for reasons other than it being the most reasonable idea, like someone pulling rank, or having a higher speech rate, or louder voice, or just being more aesthetically pleasing, you've got a pretty flawed process and this frustrates objective people. When a person consistently requires a lot of hours of "influencing", usually because their motivations are not aligned with the best interest of the company, you start looking for alternatives. e.g: having someone else to do it, deprioritizing, doing the job yourself, escalating. When you have a team full of those people, best thing you can do is to make a better use of your time and work on another team or for another company.