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> "The researchers emphasize that catching hackers is difficult, and that they can’t be 100% certain that every attack attributed to North Korea was orchestrate

> "The researchers emphasize that catching hackers is difficult, and that they can’t be 100% certain that every attack attributed to North Korea was orchestrated by its cyberwarriors." That's about the facts of this story. > "Many North Korean hackers are using perfect English or embedding other languages into coding to make it appear hacks came from other countries, the researchers have concluded" Everyone ends up using English even in comments. It's just easier. Everyone knows it. And it's where most resources are.

Cthulhu_ 9y ago
"Perfect English" is something that triggers me though; most comments I've seen are colloquial and limited, more like personal notes than anything. Or maybe that's just me.
- jrq 9y ago
  I think they mean perfect as in flawless in its execution, relative to the context of comments in code. Obviously comments don't need to be in MLA form, ya know?
- BiancaDelRio 9y ago
  As an ESL I can tell you that it also depends on your exposure to English. Non-native English speakers are often taught and exposed to mostly (classical) literary works and/or formal speak (for example, math and science). It's one of the reasons why their speech might sound stilted in person, but "perfect" in writing. What you think is "colloquial and limited" might be considered "perfect native speak" by the ESLs who often don't get that kind of environmental exposure to English.
  - brmgb 9y ago
    Does ESL stand for English as a secondary language ? Is that in common usage ? I have never seen it used to designate a group of people.
    - BiancaDelRio 9y ago
      > Does ESL stand for English as a secondary language ? I believe so. I picked up this usage (ESL as a descriptor of person) from forums and boards around the internet. Not sure how correct it is.
      - reaperducer 9y ago
        It's been in use for a long time. I remember seeing it in the 70's in colleges that taught immigrants English for free in night classes.
      - haZard_OS 9y ago
        It is accurate and also still in use in academia. In every educational institution I have worked, "ESL" is used both verbally and in digital records.
laythea 9y ago
I recently noticed that some of my firefox bookmark folders were renamed. But it was not me that renamed it. It was a very strange feeling. Whoever had renamed it was replying to the subject of the bookmark folder. So Eg. If the folder was called "Fast cars", then it would have been relabelled something like "I, this is fast cars pal." Both the "I" at the start and the "pal" are typically Scottish, which is where I'm from. I deleted the folder.
- johncoatesdev 9y ago
  Check for a gas leak
  - laythea 9y ago
    I dont understand you
    - wdewind 9y ago
      https://np.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma_postit_notes_left_in_apartment/cqvrdz6/?context=3 https://np.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma_posti...
      - ASalazarMX 9y ago
        This is one of the strangest stories of Reddit, both scary and useful. Glad to see it here.
      - laythea 9y ago
        Can confirm it is not that.
      - swarnie_ 9y ago
        Don't even need to click that to know what it is =)
      - dandersh 9y ago
        Wait, if they were forgetting that they were writing the notes, why did the handwriting look like the landlord's and not their own? This reminds me of something similar that I experienced. When I was younger my mother and I started noticing food missing in that there would be less of a bag of chips than we recalled. Nothing was ever completely eaten and the food had to have been opened first. We were pretty sure something weird was happening, and then one day we got home and I noticed there was a can of pop missing. I was absolutely certain I knew how many were left, so at this point we were convinced someone other than ourselves was responsible. After talking to other residents in the townhouse complex we find out we're not the only ones that this is happening to. Fast forward a few days and I'm locked out of our townhouse. I went to my friend, who lived a few townhouses down, and asked if I could hang out for a bit as I was locked out. He proceeds to tell me that the caretaker's daughter who lives in one of the townhouses has a master key and can let me in, as she did it for him before. We walk over to her place and he asks her to let me in with her master key. I will never forget the mix of anger and fear in her face as she weakly tries to deny having the key, only for him to bring up past incidents she has let him in. She relents and walks us over to my townhouse and lets me inside. Amazingly, after that day we no longer had food and pop go missing.
heeen2 9y ago
I occasionally work with code originating in South Korea and it is full of comments in Korean encoded in some windows Codepage I don't even know how to get vim to display them correctly. The identifiers are English but sometimes with spelling errors or odd idioms.
reaperducer 9y ago
>Everyone ends up using English even in comments. It's just easier. Everyone knows it. And it's where most resources are. I wish. I inherited a project full of third-party libraries that were commented in Cyrillic (I assume Russian).
farunen 9y ago
> Everyone ends up using English even in comments. It's just easier. Everyone knows it. And it's where most resources are. I don't know how they can be described as dangerously good hackers seeing as they forgot to strip off all the debug information when they compiled the code .. :]

Cthulhu_ 9y ago

"Perfect English" is something that triggers me though; most comments I've seen are colloquial and limited, more like personal notes than anything. Or maybe that's just me.

jrq 9y ago
I think they mean perfect as in flawless in its execution, relative to the context of comments in code. Obviously comments don't need to be in MLA form, ya know?
BiancaDelRio 9y ago
As an ESL I can tell you that it also depends on your exposure to English. Non-native English speakers are often taught and exposed to mostly (classical) literary works and/or formal speak (for example, math and science). It's one of the reasons why their speech might sound stilted in person, but "perfect" in writing. What you think is "colloquial and limited" might be considered "perfect native speak" by the ESLs who often don't get that kind of environmental exposure to English.
- brmgb 9y ago
  Does ESL stand for English as a secondary language ? Is that in common usage ? I have never seen it used to designate a group of people.
  - BiancaDelRio 9y ago
    > Does ESL stand for English as a secondary language ? I believe so. I picked up this usage (ESL as a descriptor of person) from forums and boards around the internet. Not sure how correct it is.
    - reaperducer 9y ago
      It's been in use for a long time. I remember seeing it in the 70's in colleges that taught immigrants English for free in night classes.
    - haZard_OS 9y ago
      It is accurate and also still in use in academia. In every educational institution I have worked, "ESL" is used both verbally and in digital records.

laythea 9y ago

I recently noticed that some of my firefox bookmark folders were renamed. But it was not me that renamed it. It was a very strange feeling. Whoever had renamed it was replying to the subject of the bookmark folder. So Eg. If the folder was called "Fast cars", then it would have been relabelled something like "I, this is fast cars pal." Both the "I" at the start and the "pal" are typically Scottish, which is where I'm from. I deleted the folder.

johncoatesdev 9y ago
Check for a gas leak
- laythea 9y ago
  I dont understand you
  - wdewind 9y ago
    https://np.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma_postit_notes_left_in_apartment/cqvrdz6/?context=3 https://np.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/34l7vo/ma_posti...
    - ASalazarMX 9y ago
      This is one of the strangest stories of Reddit, both scary and useful. Glad to see it here.
    - laythea 9y ago
      Can confirm it is not that.
    - swarnie_ 9y ago
      Don't even need to click that to know what it is =)
    - dandersh 9y ago
      Wait, if they were forgetting that they were writing the notes, why did the handwriting look like the landlord's and not their own? This reminds me of something similar that I experienced. When I was younger my mother and I started noticing food missing in that there would be less of a bag of chips than we recalled. Nothing was ever completely eaten and the food had to have been opened first. We were pretty sure something weird was happening, and then one day we got home and I noticed there was a can of pop missing. I was absolutely certain I knew how many were left, so at this point we were convinced someone other than ourselves was responsible. After talking to other residents in the townhouse complex we find out we're not the only ones that this is happening to. Fast forward a few days and I'm locked out of our townhouse. I went to my friend, who lived a few townhouses down, and asked if I could hang out for a bit as I was locked out. He proceeds to tell me that the caretaker's daughter who lives in one of the townhouses has a master key and can let me in, as she did it for him before. We walk over to her place and he asks her to let me in with her master key. I will never forget the mix of anger and fear in her face as she weakly tries to deny having the key, only for him to bring up past incidents she has let him in. She relents and walks us over to my townhouse and lets me inside. Amazingly, after that day we no longer had food and pop go missing.

heeen2 9y ago

I occasionally work with code originating in South Korea and it is full of comments in Korean encoded in some windows Codepage I don't even know how to get vim to display them correctly. The identifiers are English but sometimes with spelling errors or odd idioms.

reaperducer 9y ago

>Everyone ends up using English even in comments. It's just easier. Everyone knows it. And it's where most resources are. I wish. I inherited a project full of third-party libraries that were commented in Cyrillic (I assume Russian).

farunen 9y ago

> Everyone ends up using English even in comments. It's just easier. Everyone knows it. And it's where most resources are. I don't know how they can be described as dangerously good hackers seeing as they forgot to strip off all the debug information when they compiled the code .. :]