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I don't see a single reason to invest myself into Google messaging product once again. I was adamant gtalk/hangout user but you can only fuck me over so many ti

I don't see a single reason to invest myself into Google messaging product once again. I was adamant gtalk/hangout user but you can only fuck me over so many times.

andybak 9y ago
I've actually just quietly gone on using hangouts and ignored whatever strategy statements they make. It's not perfect but it still works and I see no reason to stop.
- jsight 9y ago
  Yeah, me too. It is definitely better than all of their other choices.
- Piskvorrr 9y ago
  ...which is exactly why the service will get shut down. "We made something, but people wanted to use that! Kill it, kill it with fire!!!"
seabrookmx 9y ago
To be fair, the migration from Talk to Hangouts was pretty smooth, and Hangouts still works. Google gave up pushing Hangouts for consumers but I don't think it's going anywhere, as it's a big part of G-suite for corporate customers. Though with Slack and Discord I'm sure it's usage isn't as strong as it once was.
- stephenr 9y ago
  > the migration from Talk to Hangouts was pretty smooth I take it you never used google talk via xmpp.
  - seabrookmx 9y ago
    I did actually. They kept the XMPP compat running for quite a while after, so for me Pidgin and my old blackberry GTalk app kept working. Eventually they shut it down though, but in an uncharacteristic move they gave quite a bit of lead time.
- chocolatkey 9y ago
  They gimped the hangouts extension with the great chats that would slide up on the screen and could be individually rearranged though and replaced it with the new useless "app". Now I either have to load inbox/gmail or hangouts.google.com, which loads slowly for something such as messaging
- wetpaws 9y ago
  I was furious when they dropped desktop application support for Talk. Hated hangouts, finally switched to Telegram and will never look back.
- 4ad 9y ago
  > the migration from Talk to Hangouts was pretty smooth So smooth that I lost access to hundreds of contacts that used a different, non-Google XMPP server.
stephenr 9y ago
You can take “messaging” out of that first sentence.
- havetocharge 9y ago
  Bing and Apple Maps here we come?
  - tootie 9y ago
    I don't have an iPhone, but my understanding was that users had strongly adopted Apple Maps after the initial stumbles. http://www.betaboston.com/news/2015/12/07/apple-maps-once-a-laughingstock-now-dominates-iphones/ http://www.betaboston.com/news/2015/12/07/apple-maps-once-a-...
  - stephenr 9y ago
    I've had occasional issues with Apple Maps, sure. I have no clue if Google maps have the same problems, because what I would have to give up to use it doesn't make it worth it, no matter how much better it may hypothetically be, and it wouldn't be worth it, even if Apple Maps were as bad as the Google maps users all claim it to be. Also, not bing. DDG, of course.
  - Markoff 9y ago
    more like Maps.me or Osmand, i find first superior to anything on android

I don't see a single reason to invest myself into Google messaging product once again. I was adamant gtalk/hangout user but you can only fuck me over so many times.

andybak 9y ago

I've actually just quietly gone on using hangouts and ignored whatever strategy statements they make. It's not perfect but it still works and I see no reason to stop.

jsight 9y ago
Yeah, me too. It is definitely better than all of their other choices.
Piskvorrr 9y ago
...which is exactly why the service will get shut down. "We made something, but people wanted to use that! Kill it, kill it with fire!!!"

seabrookmx 9y ago

To be fair, the migration from Talk to Hangouts was pretty smooth, and Hangouts still works. Google gave up pushing Hangouts for consumers but I don't think it's going anywhere, as it's a big part of G-suite for corporate customers. Though with Slack and Discord I'm sure it's usage isn't as strong as it once was.

stephenr 9y ago
> the migration from Talk to Hangouts was pretty smooth I take it you never used google talk via xmpp.
- seabrookmx 9y ago
  I did actually. They kept the XMPP compat running for quite a while after, so for me Pidgin and my old blackberry GTalk app kept working. Eventually they shut it down though, but in an uncharacteristic move they gave quite a bit of lead time.
chocolatkey 9y ago
They gimped the hangouts extension with the great chats that would slide up on the screen and could be individually rearranged though and replaced it with the new useless "app". Now I either have to load inbox/gmail or hangouts.google.com, which loads slowly for something such as messaging
wetpaws 9y ago
I was furious when they dropped desktop application support for Talk. Hated hangouts, finally switched to Telegram and will never look back.
4ad 9y ago
> the migration from Talk to Hangouts was pretty smooth So smooth that I lost access to hundreds of contacts that used a different, non-Google XMPP server.

stephenr 9y ago

You can take “messaging” out of that first sentence.

havetocharge 9y ago
Bing and Apple Maps here we come?
- tootie 9y ago
  I don't have an iPhone, but my understanding was that users had strongly adopted Apple Maps after the initial stumbles. http://www.betaboston.com/news/2015/12/07/apple-maps-once-a-laughingstock-now-dominates-iphones/ http://www.betaboston.com/news/2015/12/07/apple-maps-once-a-...
- stephenr 9y ago
  I've had occasional issues with Apple Maps, sure. I have no clue if Google maps have the same problems, because what I would have to give up to use it doesn't make it worth it, no matter how much better it may hypothetically be, and it wouldn't be worth it, even if Apple Maps were as bad as the Google maps users all claim it to be. Also, not bing. DDG, of course.
- Markoff 9y ago
  more like Maps.me or Osmand, i find first superior to anything on android