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When talking about Neruda's life, don't leave out the fact he had a mentally challenged daughter. He had her institutionalized to never visit again in her entir

by dieg0 8y ago

When talking about Neruda's life, don't leave out the fact he had a mentally challenged daughter. He had her institutionalized to never visit again in her entire life. He was a great poet, lived a lavish life, had many women and an eccentric lifestyle. But he was no role model, in fact, he was far from it.

soperj 8y ago
You can say the same about Jobs, but people still go on and on about him on this site.
- jacobolus 8y ago
  Jobs was a shitty parent between the ages of about 23–30 (between a few years before that and the middle of that period he had gone from being a broke unemployed college drop-out traveling around India and then living in a commune to a workaholic world-famous celebrity and gajillionaire), after which he apologetically reconciled with his former girlfriend and their child. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs#Family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs#Family
  - soperj 8y ago
    He also screwed over his friend Steve Wozniak for money before Apple was formed. He has a history of being a terrible person. No reason to pretend this was the only thing.
balladeer 8y ago
I maybe wrong in this assumption but I think very few know about a rape[0], at least that's what I think it was (from his memoir[1]), that he committed in Sri Lanka (Ceylon back then). It was a native Tamil woman. Doesn't at all read like a consensual act or an act of a transactional nature (which could be considered consensual). I loved his love poems and I think I would still like them (maybe) but for some reason I don't think it's going to be the same after knowing about this incident from his life. Maybe I need to work on separating the art from the artist, if at all that can be a thing. [0] https://globalvoices.org/2015/10/05/portrait-of-nobel-literary-prize-winner-pablo-neruda-sparks-debate-about-rape-culture-in-chile/ https://globalvoices.org/2015/10/05/portrait-of-nobel-litera... [1] http://tamilwoman.tumblr.com/post/79412843312/tw-rape-pablo-neruda-a-glorified-rapist-of http://tamilwoman.tumblr.com/post/79412843312/tw-rape-pablo-...
- diN0bot 8y ago
  Nah, I don't think you _need_ to do anything but what you feel is just and right. I personally enjoy my art in context. Same when I make a purchase or cast a vote.

by dieg0 8y ago

soperj 8y ago

You can say the same about Jobs, but people still go on and on about him on this site.

jacobolus 8y ago
Jobs was a shitty parent between the ages of about 23–30 (between a few years before that and the middle of that period he had gone from being a broke unemployed college drop-out traveling around India and then living in a commune to a workaholic world-famous celebrity and gajillionaire), after which he apologetically reconciled with his former girlfriend and their child. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs#Family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs#Family
- soperj 8y ago
  He also screwed over his friend Steve Wozniak for money before Apple was formed. He has a history of being a terrible person. No reason to pretend this was the only thing.

balladeer 8y ago

I maybe wrong in this assumption but I think very few know about a rape[0], at least that's what I think it was (from his memoir[1]), that he committed in Sri Lanka (Ceylon back then). It was a native Tamil woman. Doesn't at all read like a consensual act or an act of a transactional nature (which could be considered consensual). I loved his love poems and I think I would still like them (maybe) but for some reason I don't think it's going to be the same after knowing about this incident from his life. Maybe I need to work on separating the art from the artist, if at all that can be a thing. [0] https://globalvoices.org/2015/10/05/portrait-of-nobel-literary-prize-winner-pablo-neruda-sparks-debate-about-rape-culture-in-chile/ https://globalvoices.org/2015/10/05/portrait-of-nobel-litera... [1] http://tamilwoman.tumblr.com/post/79412843312/tw-rape-pablo-neruda-a-glorified-rapist-of http://tamilwoman.tumblr.com/post/79412843312/tw-rape-pablo-...

diN0bot 8y ago
Nah, I don't think you _need_ to do anything but what you feel is just and right. I personally enjoy my art in context. Same when I make a purchase or cast a vote.