> IMO In the stateful world, operating/running the damn thing is 85% of the work, 15% being active dev. (Stateless world is a little better, but still painful).

> IMO In the stateful world, operating/running the damn thing is 85% of the work, 15% being active dev. (Stateless world is a little better, but still painful). The number of newbie engineers who see docker/kubernetes, and think "let me docker run or helm install" a stateful service in a couple of minutes - is mind boggling. I'll remember this quote when trying to talk sense to them.