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In short, yes. If a person does not like that amount of money, which is well below a skilled profession, then they should feel sufficiently motivated to devote

In short, yes. If a person does not like that amount of money, which is well below a skilled profession, then they should feel sufficiently motivated to devote time to developing a skill. I know that may sound cold, but it is just a reflection of basic economics.

piva00 9y ago
And that is your problem, your basic economics doesn't necessarily need to be the only way that the world works. Marketable skills should be better paid? Of course. Should it pay 10~15x more to be writing scripts at Google than to be frying burgers at some place? I don't think so. If you care about people you should care that everyone has a minimum liveable wage, not that some should suffer because they can't/won't learn a high paying skill. What if instead of 10 to 15x a job at Google paid 5x what a burger flipper earns? It's still a quite good salary, incentive enough to not stop people from trying to learn better paying skills and would make the lives of people who aren't at that level a bit more comfortable. Remember the human.
- darepublic 9y ago
  What if minimum wage causes less people to be hired.
  - piva00 9y ago
    Why that doesn't happen in a bunch of other developed economies then? What makes the US so special and different?
    - darepublic 9y ago
      For the purpose of discussion do you mind giving me an example of such a country
- Bromskloss 9y ago
  > Should it pay 10~15x more to be writing scripts at Google than to be frying burgers at some place? What is this "should" you speak of?
  - piva00 9y ago
    Should as in "is it ethical and responsible for a society to have this kind of imbalance?". I sincerely don't understand if this was a jab towards me on some kind of "invisible hand of the market" argument or the complete opposite.
    - Bromskloss 9y ago
      > I sincerely don't understand if this was a jab towards me on some kind of "invisible hand of the market" argument or the complete opposite. Between those two, it was the former. What I mean is that I don't see that people are obliged (_i.e._ should) trade with each other at all. If they nevertheless choose to do so, I don't see that every good or service should cost the same, or have a maximum difference in price.
- pravinva 9y ago
  Some perspective please. At 14 dollars an hour, these workers are in the top 1 percentof all human beings on earth. Privileged, even, one could say
baby 9y ago
I think this is just a reflection of the mentality in the US.

piva00 9y ago

And that is your problem, your basic economics doesn't necessarily need to be the only way that the world works. Marketable skills should be better paid? Of course. Should it pay 10~15x more to be writing scripts at Google than to be frying burgers at some place? I don't think so. If you care about people you should care that everyone has a minimum liveable wage, not that some should suffer because they can't/won't learn a high paying skill. What if instead of 10 to 15x a job at Google paid 5x what a burger flipper earns? It's still a quite good salary, incentive enough to not stop people from trying to learn better paying skills and would make the lives of people who aren't at that level a bit more comfortable. Remember the human.

darepublic 9y ago
What if minimum wage causes less people to be hired.
- piva00 9y ago
  Why that doesn't happen in a bunch of other developed economies then? What makes the US so special and different?
  - darepublic 9y ago
    For the purpose of discussion do you mind giving me an example of such a country
Bromskloss 9y ago
> Should it pay 10~15x more to be writing scripts at Google than to be frying burgers at some place? What is this "should" you speak of?
- piva00 9y ago
  Should as in "is it ethical and responsible for a society to have this kind of imbalance?". I sincerely don't understand if this was a jab towards me on some kind of "invisible hand of the market" argument or the complete opposite.
  - Bromskloss 9y ago
    > I sincerely don't understand if this was a jab towards me on some kind of "invisible hand of the market" argument or the complete opposite. Between those two, it was the former. What I mean is that I don't see that people are obliged (_i.e._ should) trade with each other at all. If they nevertheless choose to do so, I don't see that every good or service should cost the same, or have a maximum difference in price.
pravinva 9y ago
Some perspective please. At 14 dollars an hour, these workers are in the top 1 percentof all human beings on earth. Privileged, even, one could say

baby 9y ago

I think this is just a reflection of the mentality in the US.