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> This is no worse than Facebook though. With Facebook, your friend could steal all of the data you let them see. With Scuttlebutt, your friend could steal all

> This is no worse than Facebook though. With Facebook, your friend could steal all of the data you let them see. With Scuttlebutt, your friend could steal all of the data you let them see. Your friend can, but Facebook can scrutinize third-party apps. In a decentralized world, there's no one who has access to holistically examine automated access and detect shady activity. In a decentralized world, everything is essentially a third-party app.

madamelic 9y ago
>Facebook can scrutinize third-party apps I can assure you that they don't. Anyone can have a third-party app that scavenges for private info. See: Cambridge Analytica. >there's no one who has access to holistically examine automated access and detect shady activity There is. It is you. You can shut off access your data any time you want to. Yes, if you give someone access to some data, that data could potentially be out there forever but you can revoke access to your (future) data freely.
- notheguyouthink 9y ago
  > Yes, if you give someone access to some data, that data could potentially be out there forever but you can revoke access to your (future) data freely. And, most importantly, the same is true for literally any platform. One quick look at people taking screen shots of snapchat posts shows how deletion of data from a platform like FB or Snapchat is irrelevant - viewers of that data can always copy it.
- twblalock 9y ago
  Facebook is going to scrutinize third-party apps now. They don't want another scandal similar to the Cambridge Analytica one.
nightski 9y ago
Do apps really bring that much value to the social network experience? I know for myself I have not found a single Facebook app that brings any positive value to my life.
- acdha 9y ago
  A lot of people like using them as a login system. Maybe WebAuthn will help with that since it’s a valid use but most people didn’t see what else they were agreeing to. The other thing I’ve seen a lot of people use are notifications / invites. e.g. most big gaming communities are bad experiences but you can bootstrap your friends into a better group. That seems harder to change and it’s definitely a real need.
- xori 9y ago
  Services like Buffer.io or custom mobile/desktop clients that post on your behalf. Basically only automation & power users.
- newfoundglory 9y ago
  Have any of your friends installed a Facebook app? Because it doesn’t matter if you decide they're not worth using, you have to make sure nobody in your network uses them either.

madamelic 9y ago

>Facebook can scrutinize third-party apps I can assure you that they don't. Anyone can have a third-party app that scavenges for private info. See: Cambridge Analytica. >there's no one who has access to holistically examine automated access and detect shady activity There is. It is you. You can shut off access your data any time you want to. Yes, if you give someone access to some data, that data could potentially be out there forever but you can revoke access to your (future) data freely.

notheguyouthink 9y ago
> Yes, if you give someone access to some data, that data could potentially be out there forever but you can revoke access to your (future) data freely. And, most importantly, the same is true for literally any platform. One quick look at people taking screen shots of snapchat posts shows how deletion of data from a platform like FB or Snapchat is irrelevant - viewers of that data can always copy it.
twblalock 9y ago
Facebook is going to scrutinize third-party apps now. They don't want another scandal similar to the Cambridge Analytica one.

nightski 9y ago

Do apps really bring that much value to the social network experience? I know for myself I have not found a single Facebook app that brings any positive value to my life.

acdha 9y ago
A lot of people like using them as a login system. Maybe WebAuthn will help with that since it’s a valid use but most people didn’t see what else they were agreeing to. The other thing I’ve seen a lot of people use are notifications / invites. e.g. most big gaming communities are bad experiences but you can bootstrap your friends into a better group. That seems harder to change and it’s definitely a real need.
xori 9y ago
Services like Buffer.io or custom mobile/desktop clients that post on your behalf. Basically only automation & power users.
newfoundglory 9y ago
Have any of your friends installed a Facebook app? Because it doesn’t matter if you decide they're not worth using, you have to make sure nobody in your network uses them either.