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It doesn't look like Apple open-sourced the Document Layer, which is a slight bummer. But I echo what Dave said below: what we got is incredible, let's not get

It doesn't look like Apple open-sourced the Document Layer, which is a slight bummer. But I echo what Dave said below: what we got is incredible, let's not get greedy! Also TBH now that I don't have commercial reasons to push interop, if I write another document database on top of FDB, I doubt I'd make it Mongo compatible. That API is gnarly.

chx 8y ago
> That API is gnarly. Out of the many MongoDB criticisms, this one is valid. This https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mongodb-frankenstein-monster-nosql-databases-john-de-goes/ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mongodb-frankenstein-monster-... article is quite right about it (note: endorsing the article does not mean I endorse its author by far). Other than that, they totally did a fake it until you make it with MongoDB 3.4 passing Jepsen a year ago and MongoDB BI 2.0 containing their own SQL engine instead of wrapping PostgreSQL.
- aeorgnoieang 8y ago
  What specifically are you trying to avoid endorsing about the author of the LinkedIn post to which you linked? I couldn't find anything from a cursory web search.
  - mst 8y ago
    He runs lambdaconf, and refused to disinvite a speaker who many people felt shouldn't be permitted to speak because of his historical non-technical writings. (I've tried to keep the above as dry as possible to avoid dragging the arguments around this situation into this thread - and I suspect the phrasing of the previous comment was also intended to try and avoid that, so let's see if we can keep it that way, please)
  - chx 8y ago
    You could try adding controversy to the author name and searching then. As mst correctly notes, I am trying to avoid reigniting said controversy while indicating my distaste.
itp 8y ago
> That API is gnarly. The Will Wilson I remember was not prone to such understatement. That API (and the corresponding semantics) was a nightmare.
tjb1982 8y ago
I was pretty bummed not see that, myself

chx 8y ago

> That API is gnarly. Out of the many MongoDB criticisms, this one is valid. This https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mongodb-frankenstein-monster-nosql-databases-john-de-goes/ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mongodb-frankenstein-monster-... article is quite right about it (note: endorsing the article does not mean I endorse its author by far). Other than that, they totally did a fake it until you make it with MongoDB 3.4 passing Jepsen a year ago and MongoDB BI 2.0 containing their own SQL engine instead of wrapping PostgreSQL.

aeorgnoieang 8y ago
What specifically are you trying to avoid endorsing about the author of the LinkedIn post to which you linked? I couldn't find anything from a cursory web search.
- mst 8y ago
  He runs lambdaconf, and refused to disinvite a speaker who many people felt shouldn't be permitted to speak because of his historical non-technical writings. (I've tried to keep the above as dry as possible to avoid dragging the arguments around this situation into this thread - and I suspect the phrasing of the previous comment was also intended to try and avoid that, so let's see if we can keep it that way, please)
- chx 8y ago
  You could try adding controversy to the author name and searching then. As mst correctly notes, I am trying to avoid reigniting said controversy while indicating my distaste.

itp 8y ago

> That API is gnarly. The Will Wilson I remember was not prone to such understatement. That API (and the corresponding semantics) was a nightmare.

tjb1982 8y ago

I was pretty bummed not see that, myself