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> The big problem I have started seeing is web design assuming you always browse using a maximized window. That's been a problem for roughly twenty years now.

by zeveb 9y ago

> The big problem I have started seeing is web design assuming you always browse using a maximized window. That's been a problem for roughly twenty years now. Way back in the 1990s (on a 4:3 CRT, natch) I started out with half the screen dedicated to my browser and the other half left free for other things (back in those days it was normal to have many windows open at once on a Mac screen — weird how we have so many more pixels now, but typically just have one thing on the screen at a time!). Eventually I had to stop doing that, because so many sites assumed that I'd have the browser opened full-screen. At the time, I believed that to have originally been a Windows-ism, but I don't know anymore if that was really the case. Even though I love my tiling WM, I do kinda miss the days when I'd have multiple windows open. Now, I have a second, portrait-mode, monitory — but I only have code on it, and leave my browser on the landscape-mode screen.

kalleboo 9y ago
It was a Windowsism, but I guess these days it's a smartphone/tabletism
- WorldMaker 9y ago
  It's funny too because these days in Windows it's so easy to tile to halves or quadrants (the semi-maximized "snap" states and their mouse and keyboard shortcuts), yet macOS seems to have regressed to mostly encouraging only full screen/maximized apps (with most tiling options disappeared from system menus and now seemingly relegated to third party tools) and so many web developers seem to be on macOS these days.
octorian 9y ago
I'd actually argue that Windows handles "not maximizing things" better than Mac from a usability perspective. Sure, the visual treatment of maximized windows felt "more natural" on Windows, but the Mac's #$@&! global menu bar often made moving between multiple non-maximized apps more annoying (especially on a large display).
- Zardoz84 9y ago
  Indeed. I have global menu on KDE with a multimotor setup. Nearly enforces to use a "click to focus" policy, as if you have a "follow the mouse" focus policy, is pretty annoying. Doing weird mouse moventa to avoid the focus being stoked, isn't fun. Also, I enabled having the app menu on the windows border icon (you can have both options enabled). I find it very usable and I'm begin to use it more that the global menu bar.

by zeveb 9y ago

kalleboo 9y ago

It was a Windowsism, but I guess these days it's a smartphone/tabletism

WorldMaker 9y ago
It's funny too because these days in Windows it's so easy to tile to halves or quadrants (the semi-maximized "snap" states and their mouse and keyboard shortcuts), yet macOS seems to have regressed to mostly encouraging only full screen/maximized apps (with most tiling options disappeared from system menus and now seemingly relegated to third party tools) and so many web developers seem to be on macOS these days.

octorian 9y ago

I'd actually argue that Windows handles "not maximizing things" better than Mac from a usability perspective. Sure, the visual treatment of maximized windows felt "more natural" on Windows, but the Mac's #$@&! global menu bar often made moving between multiple non-maximized apps more annoying (especially on a large display).

Zardoz84 9y ago
Indeed. I have global menu on KDE with a multimotor setup. Nearly enforces to use a "click to focus" policy, as if you have a "follow the mouse" focus policy, is pretty annoying. Doing weird mouse moventa to avoid the focus being stoked, isn't fun. Also, I enabled having the app menu on the windows border icon (you can have both options enabled). I find it very usable and I'm begin to use it more that the global menu bar.