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Thiel's genuine commitment to freedom is questionable. Also, he's a misogynist and jerk.
by your-nanny 9y ago
Thiel's genuine commitment to freedom is questionable. Also, he's a misogynist and jerk.
- taneq 9y agoI feel these issues are orthogonal. There are plenty of nice people who have no commitment to freedom or privacy, and there are plenty of assholes (and even assholes-to-women!) who are also pretty passionate about both.
- your-nanny 9y agoIf they are orthogonal, then the conjunction is maximally informative...
- aje403 9y agoExcellent point, now that you mention it, let's bring Trump and deep learning and 90's grunge into the discussion to form a maximal eigenbasis of discussion
- your-nanny 9y agoExcept most of those have no bearing on the conduct of Palantir, obviously, while the character of Thiel very much does.
- aje403 9y agoThat's not obvious. In fact, it's quite likely that my reading Trump's tweets and news along with my internet history from the early 2000's indicating an interest in Nirvana may have a weak correlative effect in a deep learning system that indicates I am slightly more susceptible to committing certain crimes or personality affects. Ergo, can we all refocus this discussion of universal privacy rights violation on my partisan social group interests?
- aje403 9y agoThank you for bringing your sexism agenda into a discussion on Palantir
- your-nanny 9y agoYou are most welcome.
- your-nanny 9y agoDo you agree that a company's culture starts from the top?
- your-nanny 9y agoI take it that your consent is agenda-free?
- atom-morgan 9y agoI do question his commitment to freedom. But a misogynist?
- your-nanny 9y agoI base my assertion on sentiments he has expressed, one if which was quoted in the Bloomberg article: >The 1920s was the last time one could feel “genuinely optimistic” about American democracy, he said; since then, “the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women—two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians—have rendered the notion of ‘capitalist democracy’ into an oxymoron.”
- atom-morgan 9y agoYes, he's observing a trend and comparing its results to the ideal “capitalist democracy” that Thiel wish existed. Women, in general, aren't very libertarian especially on fiscal issues. He's not saying their rights should be taken away. I'll admit, it isn't the best worded statement in the world.
- your-nanny 9y agoHe isn't saying that they ought to never have been granted?
- jstanley 9y agoNo, he isn't saying that.
- babygoat 9y agoOf course not. He's just invoking all of those elements in a provocative sounding statement for no particular reason.
- deadmetheny 9y agoHe's saying that women tend not to be libertarians, which is a large enough block of people to where it's very difficult to implement libertarian policies to law. There's no implication that women shouldn't be allowed to vote or women's suffrage was a mistake, it's just a really awkwardly worded statement.
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