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Also from Germany. Last time someone told me "we just can't get enought decent devs" was a company with the worst hiring process I have ever seen. They wanted

Also from Germany. Last time someone told me "we just can't get enought decent devs" was a company with the worst hiring process I have ever seen. They wanted me to build an app, with backend and frontend, and design (the design had to be "beautiful"), test it, all in under a weekend while I still was working fulltime at some other job, and I told them, they knew. It was a Deutsch company. The name is GuteFre.The worst take home test ever, of course I didn't do it.

technics256 8y ago
Lol as an American living in Germany I totally empathize with you, it made me smile. Germany also says it suffers from a lack of developers, but in my opinion what they don't say is that they need more developers to treat poorly and with a low salary.
- jandrese 8y ago
  That's the same in America. You see job posting like: Developer position, independent contractor, 5+ years experience Erlang, COBOL, Salesforce, Active Directory, IBM Mainframe, and Java required. Starting salary: $40,000. And they're whining that there is a great developer shortage in America but they did get some offers from overseas that claim to have those skills, if they could only get a H1B...
  - pluto9 8y ago
    I don't know why you're being downvoted. This is exactly how employers abuse the H1B system. Give an employer absolute power over an immigrant worker with no connections, support network, or other job options and their residency status on the line--what could possibly go wrong?
    - jandrese 8y ago
      To be fair, such an employer usually can't get a H1B these days. Which is probably for the best because those people were probably not completely truthful when they described their tech experience. There is also an filtering effect on job sites where good jobs get snapped up right away and disappear from the site, while delusional prospects concentrate over time, causing people to think that those sites have nothing but garbage offers.
      - gowld 8y ago
        Bingo! Where are all the good employees? They have jobs. Where are all the good jobs? They have employees.
        jandrese 8y ago
        The same thing happens to the dating pool as you get older.
        sincerely 8y ago
        As long as you're patient enough to wait for people to start dying this isn't a problem :^)

technics256 8y ago

Lol as an American living in Germany I totally empathize with you, it made me smile. Germany also says it suffers from a lack of developers, but in my opinion what they don't say is that they need more developers to treat poorly and with a low salary.

jandrese 8y ago
That's the same in America. You see job posting like: Developer position, independent contractor, 5+ years experience Erlang, COBOL, Salesforce, Active Directory, IBM Mainframe, and Java required. Starting salary: $40,000. And they're whining that there is a great developer shortage in America but they did get some offers from overseas that claim to have those skills, if they could only get a H1B...
- pluto9 8y ago
  I don't know why you're being downvoted. This is exactly how employers abuse the H1B system. Give an employer absolute power over an immigrant worker with no connections, support network, or other job options and their residency status on the line--what could possibly go wrong?
  - jandrese 8y ago
    To be fair, such an employer usually can't get a H1B these days. Which is probably for the best because those people were probably not completely truthful when they described their tech experience. There is also an filtering effect on job sites where good jobs get snapped up right away and disappear from the site, while delusional prospects concentrate over time, causing people to think that those sites have nothing but garbage offers.
    - gowld 8y ago
      Bingo! Where are all the good employees? They have jobs. Where are all the good jobs? They have employees.
      - jandrese 8y ago
        The same thing happens to the dating pool as you get older.
        sincerely 8y ago
        As long as you're patient enough to wait for people to start dying this isn't a problem :^)