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「The initial plan was for the experiment to be expanded in early 2018 to include workers as well as non-workers early in 2018, but that did not happen – to the
by jackvalentine 9y ago
「The initial plan was for the experiment to be expanded in early 2018 to include workers as well as non-workers early in 2018, but that did not happen – to the disappointment of researchers at Kela. Without workers in the project, researchers are unable to study whether basic income would allow people to make new career moves, or enter training or education.」
And this is the paragraph I went looking for.
- ForRealsies 9y agoWhat didn't they show the results for these 2000 unemployed Finns to 'make new career moves, or enter training, or education'?
- snarf21 9y agoYeah, the other thing that is weird when you read the article is that it wasn't UBI at all. It only went to people from a set that was unemployed. This "trial" just removed all bureaucracy and removed restrictions on side jobs, etc. I'm not sure what you could learn from this experiment. The things a lot of people want to know is can UBI provide a safety net for the poor and allow people to quit a toxic job without fear. It will be interesting to see if any of the 2K participants used this income/time to retrain or receive education.
- jackvalentine 9y agoYup that's my point exactly - it's just less restrictive unemployment benefits. As you said the really interesting stuff from UBI is people quitting shitty jobs (or, working part time at shitty jobs instead of 60 hours a week) and doing something else with their lives.
- ForRealsies 9y agoBut you cannot ignore the "less interesting stuff" from UBI. I'm curious in the statistics of long term unemployed who start to do something with their lives that they weren't doing before UBI.