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Using aljazeera a source of "news" for anything Israel is doing is a dubious as linking to bertibart as a reliable insider in the US democratic party.

by IMTDb 9y ago

devilmoon 9y ago
You don't really need aljazeera to know that Israel isn't such a nice country when it comes to mowing down human lives because their god told them that's their promised land
- Mediterraneo10 9y ago
  > because their god told them that's their promised land A substantial portion of the earliest Zionist settlers were atheists and a substantial portion of hawkish Israelis today are. The insistence on founding and maintaining a Jewish state in Israel is not overall theologically motivated.
  - devilmoon 9y ago
    Oh you're right, it's only a colonialist and racist motivation, god doesn't come into play
    - beaconstudios 9y ago
      colonialist, I can understand as Israel was carved out of the British Mandate, but I don't see the racism aspect?
- gadders 9y ago
  God and having actually lived there for 3,000 years.
- IMTDb 9y ago
  I have no pretention of saying that Israel is 'good' or 'bad' wether mossad is 'right' or 'wrong'. All I am saying is that if you want to convey facts to prove your point, please provide actual information as much as possible by avoiding clearly biased "news" site.
- mschuster91 9y ago
  > because their god told them that's their promised land Can you please stop spewing antisemitic bullshit, especially on the 70th anniversary of Israel? Israel was founded after thousands of years of antisemitism ranging from verbal abuse over pogroms up to the Holocaust so that Jews would have a safe haven from antisemitism.
  - anm89 9y ago
    Jew here. What's anti-semtic about this. Did `G-d` not tell the Jews it's their promised land? Is it not part of the justification used in elements of the dispute? Antisemitism is not the act of disagreeing with a Jewish person. It's bigotry based on that classification. This is unequivocally not anti-Semitic in my mind and I'm saying that from the perspective of someone who has experienced bigoted anti-Semitic treatment.
  - devilmoon 9y ago
    And in the process kill everyone who already lived there? Fuck off, please
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  - ronreiter 9y ago
    I’m Israeli and my family was murdered by antisemites like you. I do not believe in god, but I believe in history. Yes, the IDF kills innocent civilians. But so does every army, like the US army for example. It’s not done on purpose. When soldiers do it on purpose and not to save lives, they get punished.
yorwba 9y ago
I tried to find an Israeli source, but was stopped by paywalls. Maybe the EU response is reliable enough: https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters/headquarters-homepage/42323/statement-high-representativevice-president-federica-mogherini-following-yesterdays-events_en https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters/headquarters-homepage/42...

Using aljazeera a source of "news" for anything Israel is doing is a dubious as linking to bertibart as a reliable insider in the US democratic party.

by IMTDb 9y ago

Using aljazeera a source of "news" for anything Israel is doing is a dubious as linking to bertibart as a reliable insider in the US democratic party.

devilmoon 9y ago

You don't really need aljazeera to know that Israel isn't such a nice country when it comes to mowing down human lives because their god told them that's their promised land

Mediterraneo10 9y ago
> because their god told them that's their promised land A substantial portion of the earliest Zionist settlers were atheists and a substantial portion of hawkish Israelis today are. The insistence on founding and maintaining a Jewish state in Israel is not overall theologically motivated.
- devilmoon 9y ago
  Oh you're right, it's only a colonialist and racist motivation, god doesn't come into play
  - beaconstudios 9y ago
    colonialist, I can understand as Israel was carved out of the British Mandate, but I don't see the racism aspect?
gadders 9y ago
God and having actually lived there for 3,000 years.
IMTDb 9y ago
I have no pretention of saying that Israel is 'good' or 'bad' wether mossad is 'right' or 'wrong'. All I am saying is that if you want to convey facts to prove your point, please provide actual information as much as possible by avoiding clearly biased "news" site.
mschuster91 9y ago
> because their god told them that's their promised land Can you please stop spewing antisemitic bullshit, especially on the 70th anniversary of Israel? Israel was founded after thousands of years of antisemitism ranging from verbal abuse over pogroms up to the Holocaust so that Jews would have a safe haven from antisemitism.
- anm89 9y ago
  Jew here. What's anti-semtic about this. Did `G-d` not tell the Jews it's their promised land? Is it not part of the justification used in elements of the dispute? Antisemitism is not the act of disagreeing with a Jewish person. It's bigotry based on that classification. This is unequivocally not anti-Semitic in my mind and I'm saying that from the perspective of someone who has experienced bigoted anti-Semitic treatment.
- devilmoon 9y ago
  And in the process kill everyone who already lived there? Fuck off, please
  - deleted 9y ago
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- ronreiter 9y ago
  I’m Israeli and my family was murdered by antisemites like you. I do not believe in god, but I believe in history. Yes, the IDF kills innocent civilians. But so does every army, like the US army for example. It’s not done on purpose. When soldiers do it on purpose and not to save lives, they get punished.

yorwba 9y ago

I tried to find an Israeli source, but was stopped by paywalls. Maybe the EU response is reliable enough: https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters/headquarters-homepage/42323/statement-high-representativevice-president-federica-mogherini-following-yesterdays-events_en https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters/headquarters-homepage/42...