> tl;dr People are complex and if you are trying to control minds, often your efforts can backfire. I believe in that, but I also think you're underestimating

> tl;dr People are complex and if you are trying to control minds, often your efforts can backfire. I believe in that, but I also think you're underestimating the effectiveness of social control when done competently, which IMO is what's China's doing. You don't need to control people's minds, just their social acceptance and livelihood guarantee.