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From that thread: > Have you investigated any other auto manufacturer? > (ajpreports) I haven't nor has Will. But maybe that's our next venture! That diminis
by gniv 9y ago
From that thread:
> Have you investigated any other auto manufacturer?
> (ajpreports) I haven't nor has Will. But maybe that's our next venture!
That diminishes their credibility a lot in my mind. This is a type of investigation that should be done by people with experience in the area. Especially on a company that pushes the envelope like Tesla.
- danso 9y agoSo what are your feelings about Theranos, another hugely visionary/envelope-pushing Palo Alto company (valued as high as $9 billion) that was investigated by an East Coast reporter who has no medical, bioengineering, or entrepreneurial experience? https://www.propublica.org/podcast/how-a-reporter-pierced-the-hype-behind-theranos https://www.propublica.org/podcast/how-a-reporter-pierced-th...
- gniv 9y agoI thought about this. I don't think the comparison is correct. Theranos was not delivering what was promising product-wise. Tesla is accused of hiding injuries. I don't know the truth here, but I would be surprised if the other car companies are behaving better. That was my point: How do these reporters know that the other factories do not underreport injuries the same way? If they have never done this before, they wouldn't know. So it appears as if they picked on Tesla.
- coredog64 9y agoProbably because many other car companies have unions that hold them accountable.
- djur 9y agoAre you suggesting that they shouldn't investigate Tesla unless they also investigate all other car manufacturers?
- danso 9y agoIt was only because of the WSJ reporting that we can say Theranos “was not delivering what it was promising product-wise”. Before the investigation, hundreds of millions of dollars had been invested by ostensibly sane investors, nevermind partnerships with Walgreens and Safeway. Using your standard, no one should have paid the WSJ investigation any attention until the reporter was thoroughly versed in blood tech. The Reveal reporters are making a claim about Tesla’s worker safety practices, and they have experience covering these issues. Why don’t you think that experience is relevant in the car making domain? More to the point, Reveal’s story isn’t claiming that Tesla is misreporting injuries more than other car makers. It claims Tesla is misreporting injuries, full stop. It doesn’t require comparison.
- gniv 9y agoFive people downvoted but only one replied. I would appreciate a line explaining, since I didn't think my opinion was so controversial.
- icebraining 9y agoSome auto manufacturer has to be their first. Why not Tesla?
- gniv 9y agoYou're in the schoolyard, shooting hoops. From time to time somebody throws the ball over the fence, and somebody has to run to retrieve it. You get annoyed, but move on. Then the new kid, nerdy, scrawny, with no friends, throws the ball over the fence. You beat him up. Why him? Well, somebody has to be first. Why not him?