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That's not actually what he said - the article cuts his quote in half, and seems to attribute sentiment that's not there: "Walk out of a meeting or drop off a

That's not actually what he said - the article cuts his quote in half, and seems to attribute sentiment that's not there: "Walk out of a meeting or drop off a call as soon as it is obvious you aren’t adding value. It is not rude to leave, it is rude to make someone stay and waste their time." This is a weird, and somewhat sensational, interpretation of that line in the memo. It is clear that the mandate is to only hold useful meetings, only as often, and for as long as they're necessary. Nothing strange about that kind of mentality...

notyourday 9y ago
So he Pulls a Fixler?
mehrdadn 9y ago
Could you explain what the massive implication difference between the quote and the paraphrase is? I'm not seeing it for some reason.
- carlosdp 9y ago
  I think the big difference is in the actual quote, he's not saying walk in to a meeting and say "this is dumb" and leave. He's saying the meeting might start out being useful, but then end up slowing down or going into a tangent, and when it just becomes corporate speak and the topic doesn't actually interest you, you should leave or the meeting should probably end there.
  - mehrdadn 9y ago
    Interesting, I didn't quite interpret it that way but I can see what you're saying; thanks.
  - noselasd 9y ago
    Not only that - the meeting might be highly useful and productive, but not to _everyone_ summoned. i.e. those that find themselves in a meeting where they are not needed or have nothing to contribute should leave - however that isn't saying anything about the actual meeting being good or bad.
- djrogers 9y ago
  The entire quote doesn't actually say anything about 'bad meetings', it says that you should leave when you are no longer contributing to one. How many times have you sat through an hour-long meeting after your 5 minutes of review/updates are over? That's what he's talking about - if you're clearly not needed anymore, you don't have to stay in order to be polite.

notyourday 9y ago

So he Pulls a Fixler?

mehrdadn 9y ago

Could you explain what the massive implication difference between the quote and the paraphrase is? I'm not seeing it for some reason.

carlosdp 9y ago
I think the big difference is in the actual quote, he's not saying walk in to a meeting and say "this is dumb" and leave. He's saying the meeting might start out being useful, but then end up slowing down or going into a tangent, and when it just becomes corporate speak and the topic doesn't actually interest you, you should leave or the meeting should probably end there.
- mehrdadn 9y ago
  Interesting, I didn't quite interpret it that way but I can see what you're saying; thanks.
- noselasd 9y ago
  Not only that - the meeting might be highly useful and productive, but not to _everyone_ summoned. i.e. those that find themselves in a meeting where they are not needed or have nothing to contribute should leave - however that isn't saying anything about the actual meeting being good or bad.
djrogers 9y ago
The entire quote doesn't actually say anything about 'bad meetings', it says that you should leave when you are no longer contributing to one. How many times have you sat through an hour-long meeting after your 5 minutes of review/updates are over? That's what he's talking about - if you're clearly not needed anymore, you don't have to stay in order to be polite.