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She also told people to contact her, and gave out the schools counseling hotline number instead of her real one. She deliberately messed with the school and dra

by amp108 8y ago

She also told people to contact her, and gave out the schools counseling hotline number instead of her real one. She deliberately messed with the school and dragged them into her personal conflict. Why shouldn't they fire her, if they can, in that case?

coldtea 8y ago
Because in the end, nothing too great happened. And people can do all kinds of BS. Doesn't mean they're condemned to it for live. Or that they don't deserve second and third chances. The Old Testament "eye for an eye" responses just lead to worse outcomes.
- amp108 8y ago
  > Because in the end, nothing too great happened She fake-doxxed another school's crisis hotline, made that resource unavailable to students who needed it; she embarrassed her school and forced the administration to issue a statement when they had better things to do. > Or that they don't deserve second and third chances. If she's fired, she has as many chances as she wants to apply to a school that wants to risk having to clean up after her irresponsible bullshit.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    >She fake-doxxed another school's crisis hotline, made that resource unavailable to students who needed it; Did she? Did many people really called that crisis hotline because of her, and to the point of making it "unavailable"? And was that resource so needed in the first place that making it unavailable for some hours would be some kind of disaster (most schools don't have any kind of "crisis hotline" around the world and they manage just fine). >she embarrassed her school and forced the administration to issue a statement when they had better things to do. Yeah, that's what I was referring to by "nothing much". >If she's fired, she has as many chances as she wants to apply to a school that wants to risk having to clean up after her irresponsible bullshit. And that's what I called by not giving chances and Old Testament mentality. Perhaps some people enjoy their society being the #1 in incarcerations in the world, or treating anybody who doesn't fit a clean cut profile as a pariah, and having all kinds of people who where not given a chance and ended up mentally unstable (and/or going postal every week or so). Because that's how societies end up with that. What happened to a scolding, and a promise to not do that kind of thing again? No, it's "straight to the unemployable line you go..."
    - amp108 8y ago
      > Did she? Did many people really called that crisis hotline because of her, and to the point of making it "unavailable"? The article implies that it did. Even if it didn't, saying that it's okay is like saying it's okay to drive recklessly, as long as you don't hit anyone; it's not. > And was that resource so needed in the first place Ask that to someone who uses it. Mental health is a real problem for some students, but I guess some people don't care about that. > And that's what I called by not giving chances and Old Testament mentality. I don't know what "Old Testament" has anything to do with it. She flaunted the fact that she wouldn't face consequences (or so she be believed), so it looks like consequences are how she thinks, too. > Perhaps some people enjoy their society being the #1 in incarcerations in the world... This entire paragraph is blowing smoke. > What happened to a scolding, and a promise to not do that kind of thing again? That kind of thing is for children. This woman is an adult, and should already know what adult behavior is like. And if you're so concerned about unemployment, realize that there is someone else out there looking for a teaching job, who knows how to act like a grown-up, who will happily fill the opening.

by amp108 8y ago

coldtea 8y ago

Because in the end, nothing too great happened. And people can do all kinds of BS. Doesn't mean they're condemned to it for live. Or that they don't deserve second and third chances. The Old Testament "eye for an eye" responses just lead to worse outcomes.

amp108 8y ago
> Because in the end, nothing too great happened She fake-doxxed another school's crisis hotline, made that resource unavailable to students who needed it; she embarrassed her school and forced the administration to issue a statement when they had better things to do. > Or that they don't deserve second and third chances. If she's fired, she has as many chances as she wants to apply to a school that wants to risk having to clean up after her irresponsible bullshit.
- coldtea 8y ago
  >She fake-doxxed another school's crisis hotline, made that resource unavailable to students who needed it; Did she? Did many people really called that crisis hotline because of her, and to the point of making it "unavailable"? And was that resource so needed in the first place that making it unavailable for some hours would be some kind of disaster (most schools don't have any kind of "crisis hotline" around the world and they manage just fine). >she embarrassed her school and forced the administration to issue a statement when they had better things to do. Yeah, that's what I was referring to by "nothing much". >If she's fired, she has as many chances as she wants to apply to a school that wants to risk having to clean up after her irresponsible bullshit. And that's what I called by not giving chances and Old Testament mentality. Perhaps some people enjoy their society being the #1 in incarcerations in the world, or treating anybody who doesn't fit a clean cut profile as a pariah, and having all kinds of people who where not given a chance and ended up mentally unstable (and/or going postal every week or so). Because that's how societies end up with that. What happened to a scolding, and a promise to not do that kind of thing again? No, it's "straight to the unemployable line you go..."
  - amp108 8y ago
    > Did she? Did many people really called that crisis hotline because of her, and to the point of making it "unavailable"? The article implies that it did. Even if it didn't, saying that it's okay is like saying it's okay to drive recklessly, as long as you don't hit anyone; it's not. > And was that resource so needed in the first place Ask that to someone who uses it. Mental health is a real problem for some students, but I guess some people don't care about that. > And that's what I called by not giving chances and Old Testament mentality. I don't know what "Old Testament" has anything to do with it. She flaunted the fact that she wouldn't face consequences (or so she be believed), so it looks like consequences are how she thinks, too. > Perhaps some people enjoy their society being the #1 in incarcerations in the world... This entire paragraph is blowing smoke. > What happened to a scolding, and a promise to not do that kind of thing again? That kind of thing is for children. This woman is an adult, and should already know what adult behavior is like. And if you're so concerned about unemployment, realize that there is someone else out there looking for a teaching job, who knows how to act like a grown-up, who will happily fill the opening.