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The only response I can really offer to somebody using your definition is "I too hate society" (with my tongue firmly in cheek). Which says to me that it is not
by eropple 9y ago
The only response I can really offer to somebody using your definition is "I too hate society" (with my tongue firmly in cheek). Which says to me that it is not a particularly useful definition? I mean, dictionaries are useful for the elaboration of terms, but picking a dictionary reflective of the legal environment might be wiser[0]. A crucial nuance that the definition you quoted lacks is that vigilantism is the enforcement of the law by parties not so empowered. It's monopoly-of-force stuff. The definition you offered turns the word into a nearly null term.
"Hey, don't hire that guy or I'm not going to do business with you" is not a third-party attempt to enforce the law. It is a declaration of, like, a transactional condition. The company receiving that message can weigh whether or not putting up with that guy (or even if they are deserving of opprobrium in the first place--after all, maybe the person talking to them is wrong!) is worth the hit to their bottom line and decide accordingly. It's a transaction, it's not a violation of the state's monopoly of force, it's not "vigilantism" in any way that makes the term meaningful and useful in a sane discussion.
There are bounds we have placed on some kinds of transaction--you can't sell yourself into slavery (by some definitions at least), a business can't refuse service to a protected class (unless it can for a set of prescribed reasons)--but "hey, that guy's a jerk and I'm not gonna do business with jerks" is far afield from that.
[0] - https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Vigilantism https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Vigilantism
- shkkmo 9y ago> Which says to me that it is not a particularly useful definition? Perhaps you shouldn't call out people who use a valid definition you find "not useful" for lying (mendacity)? > A crucial nuance that the definition you quoted lacks is that vigilantism is the enforcement of the law by parties not so empowered. Vigilantism is definitely not "enforcement of the law" since it is often illegal. I don't think either of us were claiming that this type of vigilante behavior should be illegal. As the legal dictionary you reference points out some types of vigilantism are illegal, others are legal. What we are pointing out is that vigilantism as a solution to this problem has significant downsides that should not be ignored. Ideally we are able to reform the justice system so that vigilante action is not required to achieve a just result again criminal offenders. EDIT: Off topic, I want to also say they I like your vocabulary, you use some good words and looking them up was educational =]
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