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> Also, many more women than men are college educated now No, not even close: https://www.statista.com/statistics/184272/educational-attainment-of-college-dip

> Also, many more women than men are college educated now No, not even close: https://www.statista.com/statistics/184272/educational-attainment-of-college-diploma-or-higher-by-gender/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/184272/educational-attai... https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/p20-578.pdf https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publicatio...

maneesh 9y ago
Err -- did you look at your graph? Your first link shows that 2017 was the first year that more women were educated then men....and your second link is from 2015, before the flip.
- psychometry 9y ago
  Of course I looked at the graph. Even though women earned more degrees than men in 2017, for nearly the entire history of the country, men earned substantially more college degrees than women. Thus, men currently hold significantly more than half of the college degrees right now. We're talking about prevalence, not incidence.
  - jazzyk 9y ago
    You are correct, but current college graduates (so 56% of them women) are in the "dating pool" much more so than the 60-year olds (where a higher percentage of men are educated, but not much dating going on).
toasterlovin 9y ago
Keep in mind that these appear to be for the population as a whole. Since women have overtaken men recently from what used to be a pretty significant disparity, that should mean that recent years have seen a significantly higher proportion of women getting college degrees vs. men.
- psychometry 9y ago
  It's not significantly higher. And we are talking about the population as a whole. I'm refuting the point that "many more women than men are college educated now". This is incorrect. See my other response regarding incidence vs. prevalence.
  - jazzyk 9y ago
    But we should not be talking about the population as a whole - just the 25-35 year-old segment who are in the dating pool. And in that age group, college-educated women may outnumber men.
    - toasterlovin 9y ago
      They have to, and by a significant margin, for the trends in the graph on the OP's source to obtain.
notadoc 9y ago
Your own links support my statement. Here is some additional data from the Department of Education demonstrating that women make up 56% of college students nationwide: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d16/tables/dt16_303.70.asp https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d16/tables/dt16_303.70.a... And some lighter reading on the topic if you're not into reviewing raw numbers. https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-men-are-the-new-college-minority/536103/ https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-me... https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/gender-education-gap/546677/ https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/gender-... You might have a personal opinion on the data, or maybe you don't like the data, but data is data.

maneesh 9y ago

Err -- did you look at your graph? Your first link shows that 2017 was the first year that more women were educated then men....and your second link is from 2015, before the flip.

psychometry 9y ago
Of course I looked at the graph. Even though women earned more degrees than men in 2017, for nearly the entire history of the country, men earned substantially more college degrees than women. Thus, men currently hold significantly more than half of the college degrees right now. We're talking about prevalence, not incidence.
- jazzyk 9y ago
  You are correct, but current college graduates (so 56% of them women) are in the "dating pool" much more so than the 60-year olds (where a higher percentage of men are educated, but not much dating going on).

toasterlovin 9y ago

Keep in mind that these appear to be for the population as a whole. Since women have overtaken men recently from what used to be a pretty significant disparity, that should mean that recent years have seen a significantly higher proportion of women getting college degrees vs. men.

psychometry 9y ago
It's not significantly higher. And we are talking about the population as a whole. I'm refuting the point that "many more women than men are college educated now". This is incorrect. See my other response regarding incidence vs. prevalence.
- jazzyk 9y ago
  But we should not be talking about the population as a whole - just the 25-35 year-old segment who are in the dating pool. And in that age group, college-educated women may outnumber men.
  - toasterlovin 9y ago
    They have to, and by a significant margin, for the trends in the graph on the OP's source to obtain.

notadoc 9y ago

Your own links support my statement. Here is some additional data from the Department of Education demonstrating that women make up 56% of college students nationwide: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d16/tables/dt16_303.70.asp https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d16/tables/dt16_303.70.a... And some lighter reading on the topic if you're not into reviewing raw numbers. https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-men-are-the-new-college-minority/536103/ https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-me... https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/gender-education-gap/546677/ https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/gender-... You might have a personal opinion on the data, or maybe you don't like the data, but data is data.