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I agree, but blocking third-party cookies does break a whole lot of sites. Apple can do this, because they have a limited yet consistent market share that most

I agree, but blocking third-party cookies does break a whole lot of sites. Apple can do this, because they have a limited yet consistent market share that mostly consists of their own customers. But Firefox? If they block third-party cookies and Chrome does not, they might just end up losing even more users.

Tepix 8y ago
Sure you can argue that way. But it's not as big of a problem as you think it is. The fact that Apple does it is enough proof for that. Websites can be changed to work without third party cookies. I'm blocking cookies since years and I have come across less than 10 sites that require it. When that happens, most of the time I just go elsewhere or I'll send them an email.
- pellucidar 8y ago
  I’ve been blocking third party cookies for as long as Safari has had that option, and I’ve never noticed an issue. I only get Google’s annoying recaptchas when my search string is too specific for their tastes.
joosters 8y ago
What sites are broken by Safari because of its default cookie options? I haven't encountered any.
- cbr 8y ago
  Any site which iframes in another site where you're expected to be logged in. For example, Disqus comments, Facebook like buttons, Youtube embeds (which work, but show ads even if you've paid for no ads). There are also lots of one-off cases where developers split functionality across multiple domains in ways that were fine at the time but now get blocked. These are all fixable, unlike the iframing case, but it's still a lot of sites.
  - billysielu 8y ago
    We need to redefine 'break' into: Breaks because it was abusing lack of FPI. Breaks innocently.
- Nagyman 8y ago
  I think it's more nuanced than just blocking ALL third-party cookies. If you have visited the site before (e.g. facebook.com), my understanding is that those cookies are allowed. It's only blocking third-party cookies from sites you have never explicitly visited before.
- gregknicholson 8y ago
  Atlassian's HipChat web app breaks (in Gnome Web, which also disables third-party cookies). <snark>So, nothing you'd want to use.</snark>
billysielu 8y ago
A large percentage of things that break SHOULD BREAK. That's the whole point isn't it?

Tepix 8y ago

Sure you can argue that way. But it's not as big of a problem as you think it is. The fact that Apple does it is enough proof for that. Websites can be changed to work without third party cookies. I'm blocking cookies since years and I have come across less than 10 sites that require it. When that happens, most of the time I just go elsewhere or I'll send them an email.

pellucidar 8y ago
I’ve been blocking third party cookies for as long as Safari has had that option, and I’ve never noticed an issue. I only get Google’s annoying recaptchas when my search string is too specific for their tastes.

joosters 8y ago

What sites are broken by Safari because of its default cookie options? I haven't encountered any.

cbr 8y ago
Any site which iframes in another site where you're expected to be logged in. For example, Disqus comments, Facebook like buttons, Youtube embeds (which work, but show ads even if you've paid for no ads). There are also lots of one-off cases where developers split functionality across multiple domains in ways that were fine at the time but now get blocked. These are all fixable, unlike the iframing case, but it's still a lot of sites.
- billysielu 8y ago
  We need to redefine 'break' into: Breaks because it was abusing lack of FPI. Breaks innocently.
Nagyman 8y ago
I think it's more nuanced than just blocking ALL third-party cookies. If you have visited the site before (e.g. facebook.com), my understanding is that those cookies are allowed. It's only blocking third-party cookies from sites you have never explicitly visited before.
gregknicholson 8y ago
Atlassian's HipChat web app breaks (in Gnome Web, which also disables third-party cookies). <snark>So, nothing you'd want to use.</snark>

billysielu 8y ago

A large percentage of things that break SHOULD BREAK. That's the whole point isn't it?