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AWS's ELB/ALB have been rock solid for us. Not sure what you are referring to when you say 'antiquated infrastructure'?

by Cshelton 9y ago

cptskippy 9y ago
Antiquated doesn't mean unstable or unusable. It means old fashioned. It's not the new hotness.
- KirinDave 9y ago
  I see such intense benefits from HTTP/2 end to end, I'm quite happy to be called a shiny-chaser when my 50th and 99th drops so sharply. Also, prefetch is absolutely incredible for webapps and I'm trying to get my peers at my current employer to embrace it even if it's not well supported in AWS.
  - web007 9y ago
    Have you tried termination at ELB with TCP to backend, or just plain TCP passthrough all the way? Also as mentioned elsewhere, ALB or NLB might do what you want, either working the same way as regular ELB or via the same workarounds.
KirinDave 9y ago
To answer your question directly, AWS's poor spike handling has really made me distrustful of them. It's not that AWS's support staff is bad (actually, they're phenomenal given the difficulty of that job) but... the fact that I can be taken down by a big scale event because I can't pre-scale my ELBs without support help that takes hours is kinda annoying. Now, I've been TOLD by ___________________________________ this is actually because it's a pain in the butt and they're working to fix it, but AWS's budget seems to favor new shinies over iterating on the existing environment. Look how long it took us to get a new and less buggy AWS dashboard and that still hasn't propagated to all the internal services. I could go on. For example, my experience is that GCE's and even Azure's I/O and networking is way faster, more consistent and more reliable than AWSs. I host all my dev boxes on GCE because using an attached drive (so I can de/re-provision to save on costs) is much less agonizing. Also: google has some AMAZING database products that category kill whole infrastructure tasks. It's a very good kind of vendor lock-in when they can say, "You can't move away because no one else has found a way to provide our feature set."

AWS's ELB/ALB have been rock solid for us. Not sure what you are referring to when you say 'antiquated infrastructure'?

cptskippy 9y ago

Antiquated doesn't mean unstable or unusable. It means old fashioned. It's not the new hotness.

KirinDave 9y ago
I see such intense benefits from HTTP/2 end to end, I'm quite happy to be called a shiny-chaser when my 50th and 99th drops so sharply. Also, prefetch is absolutely incredible for webapps and I'm trying to get my peers at my current employer to embrace it even if it's not well supported in AWS.
- web007 9y ago
  Have you tried termination at ELB with TCP to backend, or just plain TCP passthrough all the way? Also as mentioned elsewhere, ALB or NLB might do what you want, either working the same way as regular ELB or via the same workarounds.

KirinDave 9y ago

To answer your question directly, AWS's poor spike handling has really made me distrustful of them. It's not that AWS's support staff is bad (actually, they're phenomenal given the difficulty of that job) but... the fact that I can be taken down by a big scale event because I can't pre-scale my ELBs without support help that takes hours is kinda annoying. Now, I've been TOLD by ___________________________________ this is actually because it's a pain in the butt and they're working to fix it, but AWS's budget seems to favor new shinies over iterating on the existing environment. Look how long it took us to get a new and less buggy AWS dashboard and that still hasn't propagated to all the internal services. I could go on. For example, my experience is that GCE's and even Azure's I/O and networking is way faster, more consistent and more reliable than AWSs. I host all my dev boxes on GCE because using an attached drive (so I can de/re-provision to save on costs) is much less agonizing. Also: google has some AMAZING database products that category kill whole infrastructure tasks. It's a very good kind of vendor lock-in when they can say, "You can't move away because no one else has found a way to provide our feature set."