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So, Telegram is blocked. But Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp are still online. Hence, this is pushing users of a (relatively) country-neutral service, towards m

by kokx 8y ago

So, Telegram is blocked. But Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp are still online. Hence, this is pushing users of a (relatively) country-neutral service, towards more American services. Seems like a weird move for Russia.

pentae 8y ago
Any reasonable person would deduce that Facebook/American services are simply compliant.
speg 8y ago
Perhaps those American services are easier to compromise...
huhtenberg 8y ago
This may also mean that Facebook is complying with the Russian government demands for at-will access to WhatsApp and Messenger content.
- csydas 8y ago
  I think a much simpler and more elegant answer is "they didn't think of that, they just want to block Telegram." As someone in Russia, the block pretty much only hinders use of the legitimate services, not of Telegram. Numerous services exist to allow it to continue, and the block is a hack-job to try to prove a point.
- abhiminator 8y ago
  > WhatsApp and Messenger content. (emphasis mine) Isn't WhatsApp supposed to be end-to-end encrypted making it next to impossible even for developers (Facebook Inc. in this case) to access the transmitted messages' content?
  - andrepd 8y ago
    What use is it being end-to-end encrypted if, for all you know, they store the keys, or even decrypt and store all contents on their servers...
    - donkeyd 8y ago
      It's decrypted on my phone in their app. Theoretically, what stops them from connecting to my phone and reading the decrypted content from there?
  - netzone 8y ago
    Wasn't it WhatsApp that sent a key back to Facebook servers? Technically it's end-to-end encrypted, but Facebook could decrypt it if they really wanted to.
    - willstrafach 8y ago
      Do you have a source for this claim? It does not sound correct.
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MajorSauce 8y ago
As other have said, maybe the others are easier to compromise. I would also adventure that it might have been seen as an easy target by the Russian intelligence agencies and they anticipated Telegram to secretly comply.

by kokx 8y ago

pentae 8y ago

Any reasonable person would deduce that Facebook/American services are simply compliant.

speg 8y ago

Perhaps those American services are easier to compromise...

huhtenberg 8y ago

This may also mean that Facebook is complying with the Russian government demands for at-will access to WhatsApp and Messenger content.

csydas 8y ago
I think a much simpler and more elegant answer is "they didn't think of that, they just want to block Telegram." As someone in Russia, the block pretty much only hinders use of the legitimate services, not of Telegram. Numerous services exist to allow it to continue, and the block is a hack-job to try to prove a point.
abhiminator 8y ago
> WhatsApp and Messenger content. (emphasis mine) Isn't WhatsApp supposed to be end-to-end encrypted making it next to impossible even for developers (Facebook Inc. in this case) to access the transmitted messages' content?
- andrepd 8y ago
  What use is it being end-to-end encrypted if, for all you know, they store the keys, or even decrypt and store all contents on their servers...
  - donkeyd 8y ago
    It's decrypted on my phone in their app. Theoretically, what stops them from connecting to my phone and reading the decrypted content from there?
- netzone 8y ago
  Wasn't it WhatsApp that sent a key back to Facebook servers? Technically it's end-to-end encrypted, but Facebook could decrypt it if they really wanted to.
  - willstrafach 8y ago
    Do you have a source for this claim? It does not sound correct.

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MajorSauce 8y ago

As other have said, maybe the others are easier to compromise. I would also adventure that it might have been seen as an easy target by the Russian intelligence agencies and they anticipated Telegram to secretly comply.