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You can't compare the right-wing in Europe and United States. For example in Sweden our right win party SD is much less about the free market and small governme

You can't compare the right-wing in Europe and United States. For example in Sweden our right win party SD is much less about the free market and small government policies. Instead I would say the main goal of SD is to preserve Swedens generous welfare society.

rsynnott 8y ago
The new right in the US is also more ambivalent on the free market, though; note Trump's attempts at trade wars.
- maxerickson 8y ago
  Free trade has always been the position of the elites on the US right (and left) more than the masses.
  - emodendroket 8y ago
    This is more true than false, but tariffs were popular with US business leaders really until a little while after the post-war period.
    - AdrianB1 8y ago
      I either got it completely wrong or the tariffs were one of the major income sources in US before income tax was implemented.
      - emodendroket 8y ago
        That makes sense, but US business owners also preferred being insulated from foreign competition.
EastLondonCoder 8y ago
Thats an odd way of looking at SD. There is a clear macroeconomic consensus that immigration is good for the economy as a whole, the GDP growth Sweden has enjoyed strongly support this. An SD government would be a threat to the Swedish welfare society. This is a party started not by right leaning nationalists but by actual nazis. Gustav Ekström, one of the founders of the party was a volunteer in the Waffen-SS in 1941. Yes the party has changed but these are the kinds of people running the party when the current leadership joined. Its overwhelmingly clear the main reason for the party is to turn Sweden into some sort of white nationalist fantasy where anyone with a brown face is not welcome.
- baud147258 8y ago
  >immigration is good for the economy as a whole Or migrants will prefer countries which currently have robust economies, so more opportunities for them? Correlation does not imply causation.
- KingBluetooth 8y ago
  SD has a very dark and disturbing history I think we can all agree to that but they have cleaned up and become a different party then before. They are now for example proponents of "open swedishness" where ethnicity have no bearing on if you are Swedish. http://www.lt.se/opinion/debatt/sd-ar-for-en-oppen-svenskhet http://www.lt.se/opinion/debatt/sd-ar-for-en-oppen-svenskhet "Its overwhelmingly clear the main reason for the party is to turn Sweden into some sort of white nationalist fantasy where anyone with a brown face is not welcome. "do you really believe this? Maybe it wasn't clear in my original reply but to me it seems SD thinks the way to save the Swedish welfare state is reduced immigration. Immigration can be good for the economy sure, but in my opinon you can't just state that all immigration is good for the economy as a whole. Just today a report from Konjunkturinstitutet came that said that warns that if more immigrants don't get jobs the taxes will have to be higher. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/ekonomi/konjunkturinstitutet-darfor-ar-det-sa-viktigt-att-fa-alla-i-jobb https://www.svt.se/nyheter/ekonomi/konjunkturinstitutet-darf... In the paper Refugee immigration and public finances in Sweden by Ruist, Joakim. The cost is refugee immigration and their family members is calculated to 1 % of BNP in the year 2007.

rsynnott 8y ago

The new right in the US is also more ambivalent on the free market, though; note Trump's attempts at trade wars.

maxerickson 8y ago
Free trade has always been the position of the elites on the US right (and left) more than the masses.
- emodendroket 8y ago
  This is more true than false, but tariffs were popular with US business leaders really until a little while after the post-war period.
  - AdrianB1 8y ago
    I either got it completely wrong or the tariffs were one of the major income sources in US before income tax was implemented.
    - emodendroket 8y ago
      That makes sense, but US business owners also preferred being insulated from foreign competition.

EastLondonCoder 8y ago

Thats an odd way of looking at SD. There is a clear macroeconomic consensus that immigration is good for the economy as a whole, the GDP growth Sweden has enjoyed strongly support this. An SD government would be a threat to the Swedish welfare society. This is a party started not by right leaning nationalists but by actual nazis. Gustav Ekström, one of the founders of the party was a volunteer in the Waffen-SS in 1941. Yes the party has changed but these are the kinds of people running the party when the current leadership joined. Its overwhelmingly clear the main reason for the party is to turn Sweden into some sort of white nationalist fantasy where anyone with a brown face is not welcome.

baud147258 8y ago
>immigration is good for the economy as a whole Or migrants will prefer countries which currently have robust economies, so more opportunities for them? Correlation does not imply causation.
KingBluetooth 8y ago
SD has a very dark and disturbing history I think we can all agree to that but they have cleaned up and become a different party then before. They are now for example proponents of "open swedishness" where ethnicity have no bearing on if you are Swedish. http://www.lt.se/opinion/debatt/sd-ar-for-en-oppen-svenskhet http://www.lt.se/opinion/debatt/sd-ar-for-en-oppen-svenskhet "Its overwhelmingly clear the main reason for the party is to turn Sweden into some sort of white nationalist fantasy where anyone with a brown face is not welcome. "do you really believe this? Maybe it wasn't clear in my original reply but to me it seems SD thinks the way to save the Swedish welfare state is reduced immigration. Immigration can be good for the economy sure, but in my opinon you can't just state that all immigration is good for the economy as a whole. Just today a report from Konjunkturinstitutet came that said that warns that if more immigrants don't get jobs the taxes will have to be higher. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/ekonomi/konjunkturinstitutet-darfor-ar-det-sa-viktigt-att-fa-alla-i-jobb https://www.svt.se/nyheter/ekonomi/konjunkturinstitutet-darf... In the paper Refugee immigration and public finances in Sweden by Ruist, Joakim. The cost is refugee immigration and their family members is calculated to 1 % of BNP in the year 2007.