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Realistic version: • tries to visit ckastner.com • the website is down • retrieve the information from an archived snapshot instead https://addons.mozilla.or

by bmn__ 9y ago

Realistic version: • tries to visit ckastner.com • the website is down • retrieve the information from an archived snapshot instead https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/resurrect-pages-isup-edition https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/resurrect-pages-isu... • Christian Kastner was already notified by email from his automated monitoring that the website is down

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kroltan 9y ago
Not very realistic for a lot of personal websites. Sure, newfangled ones that leverage similar pipelines as of web applications, absolutely. But a large fraction of the Web is still a bunch of PHP scripts cobbled together on some outdated hosting service, or equivalent. Not everyone with a website is a web developer, or paid a knowledgeable and modern web developer to make the website.
- always_good 9y ago
  It's also not realistic to expect people to want some rando to be able to call them about their website.
  - kroltan 9y ago
    Is it? I always name my personal belongings (umbrellas et al) so if I forget them somewhere public and whoever finds it is a kind soul, they can return it to me. Of course nobody _else_ should be forced on sharing details just for this kind of occasional utility, I'm not claiming that.
    - always_good 9y ago
      Am I supposed to make the assumption for you that because you put your name on your lunchbox, you prefer to make available your name, phone number, and address on your website whois? Honestly, I think you should take social engineering more seriously if you think the benefits outweigh the costs. Like someone removing their front door because it might encourage someone to drop by for some stimulating conversation. For example, the author of the "Amazon Backdoor" post a while back suspected that the attacker got their address from a whois of one of their domains.
1over137 9y ago
If his website was down, his email could be down too, if on the same downed server. I suppose an automated monitoring system could phone him though.
jacquesm 9y ago
And his phone number changed 3 times in the meantime so instead you'll be waking up Nina Sonnenschein at 3 am.

by bmn__ 9y ago

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kroltan 9y ago

Not very realistic for a lot of personal websites. Sure, newfangled ones that leverage similar pipelines as of web applications, absolutely. But a large fraction of the Web is still a bunch of PHP scripts cobbled together on some outdated hosting service, or equivalent. Not everyone with a website is a web developer, or paid a knowledgeable and modern web developer to make the website.

always_good 9y ago
It's also not realistic to expect people to want some rando to be able to call them about their website.
- kroltan 9y ago
  Is it? I always name my personal belongings (umbrellas et al) so if I forget them somewhere public and whoever finds it is a kind soul, they can return it to me. Of course nobody _else_ should be forced on sharing details just for this kind of occasional utility, I'm not claiming that.
  - always_good 9y ago
    Am I supposed to make the assumption for you that because you put your name on your lunchbox, you prefer to make available your name, phone number, and address on your website whois? Honestly, I think you should take social engineering more seriously if you think the benefits outweigh the costs. Like someone removing their front door because it might encourage someone to drop by for some stimulating conversation. For example, the author of the "Amazon Backdoor" post a while back suspected that the attacker got their address from a whois of one of their domains.

1over137 9y ago

If his website was down, his email could be down too, if on the same downed server. I suppose an automated monitoring system could phone him though.

jacquesm 9y ago

And his phone number changed 3 times in the meantime so instead you'll be waking up Nina Sonnenschein at 3 am.