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My windows 10 Pro cost me $270 when I got it on christmas sale. I can't disable debug telemetry or cortona. If I set the options to via admin (or even safe mod

My windows 10 Pro cost me $270 when I got it on christmas sale. I can't disable debug telemetry or cortona. If I set the options to via admin (or even safe mode) via registry edits. After a reboot I'll find them back on.

Stratoscope 9y ago
$270 USD? That can't be right. Full retail price is only $199. Amazon and Newegg both sell Windows 10 Pro retail download for $189, and Windows 10 Pro 64 bit System Builder OEM disc for $143. These aren't sale prices, just regular prices.
- mrweasel 9y ago
  Windows 10 Pro is 1899DKK from Microsoft, that's 315USD. Home is cheaper, at 1099 (180USD).
  - xori 9y ago
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x4d43rkt/48DN https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x... I see $200USD
  - pwagland 9y ago
    In the Netherlands it is 259€ ( https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x4d43rkt/48DN https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x... ) that is 317USD in the conversion, so that sounds about right when you don't live in the US. Of course, these European prices already include sales tax, which the US prices don't, but even then it would still be ~250USD without BTW.
    - pureagave 9y ago
      I have to wonder if the EU prices include the cost of doing business in the EU. Like paying the big EU fines.
- pwagland 9y ago
  Not the grandparent, but in the Netherlands it is 259€ ( https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x.. https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x.... ) that is 317USD in the conversion, so that sounds about right when you don't live in the US. Of course, these European prices already include sales tax, which the US prices don't, but even then it would still be ~250USD without BTW. So 270USD on sale sounds like a decent savings!
NiveaGeForce 9y ago
You can disable Cortana in every version of Windows 10 from regular settings, and it even asks you upon install. Telemetry can be set to basic in settings too, which is harmless, and it also asks you upon install.
- hungerstrike 9y ago
  Maybe you know this already but here's some friendly advice: You're not going to get anywhere defending Windows or Microsoft against the HN crowd. Most of them live in a bubble and it's just not cool to use Windows or Microsoft products...so even when you're right, which you are, the most you can hope for is that they'll ignore your comment instead of spouting off some ridiculous nonsense that they actually have no clue about. And then they turn around and pimp Apple, the most controlling, selfish enemy of personal freedom with the shittiest software that you can imagine. It's kinda hilarious to watch though.
  - Tom4hawk 8y ago
    I don't care if "Basic" setting sends harmless information. I don't want to send ANYTHING. It's my computer, I paid for it, I paid for this system and I want full control. Full disclosure: I don't use Windows, I don't use Apple products, I'm trying to avoid using any closed-source software.
    - hungerstrike 8y ago
      I get it, I really do - if you can live on Linux alone that’s great. Many other people here will complain about Microsoft ads on the start menu but turn around and forgive Apple who shows you ads every time you want to update your computer via the App Store. With Windows when I remove the ad (which is just a shortcut to a non-installed app) it’s gone forever or at least a long time. Or, they will fault Microsoft for some slight lock-in with their Mail app that nobody is forced to use and completely forgive Apple for the immense level of lock in on iOS because “Apple has always only offered that” and Microsoft is not allowed to change. However, I have to put up with basic telemetry which is slightly annoying but not a showstopper for me. I can also install the enterprise version of Windows which I think I can get via my MSDN subscription. Either way, it is annoying but I can live with it.

Stratoscope 9y ago

$270 USD? That can't be right. Full retail price is only $199. Amazon and Newegg both sell Windows 10 Pro retail download for $189, and Windows 10 Pro 64 bit System Builder OEM disc for $143. These aren't sale prices, just regular prices.

mrweasel 9y ago
Windows 10 Pro is 1899DKK from Microsoft, that's 315USD. Home is cheaper, at 1099 (180USD).
- xori 9y ago
  https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x4d43rkt/48DN https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x... I see $200USD
- pwagland 9y ago
  In the Netherlands it is 259€ ( https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x4d43rkt/48DN https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x... ) that is 317USD in the conversion, so that sounds about right when you don't live in the US. Of course, these European prices already include sales tax, which the US prices don't, but even then it would still be ~250USD without BTW.
  - pureagave 9y ago
    I have to wonder if the EU prices include the cost of doing business in the EU. Like paying the big EU fines.
pwagland 9y ago
Not the grandparent, but in the Netherlands it is 259€ ( https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x.. https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x.... ) that is 317USD in the conversion, so that sounds about right when you don't live in the US. Of course, these European prices already include sales tax, which the US prices don't, but even then it would still be ~250USD without BTW. So 270USD on sale sounds like a decent savings!

NiveaGeForce 9y ago

You can disable Cortana in every version of Windows 10 from regular settings, and it even asks you upon install. Telemetry can be set to basic in settings too, which is harmless, and it also asks you upon install.

hungerstrike 9y ago
Maybe you know this already but here's some friendly advice: You're not going to get anywhere defending Windows or Microsoft against the HN crowd. Most of them live in a bubble and it's just not cool to use Windows or Microsoft products...so even when you're right, which you are, the most you can hope for is that they'll ignore your comment instead of spouting off some ridiculous nonsense that they actually have no clue about. And then they turn around and pimp Apple, the most controlling, selfish enemy of personal freedom with the shittiest software that you can imagine. It's kinda hilarious to watch though.
- Tom4hawk 8y ago
  I don't care if "Basic" setting sends harmless information. I don't want to send ANYTHING. It's my computer, I paid for it, I paid for this system and I want full control. Full disclosure: I don't use Windows, I don't use Apple products, I'm trying to avoid using any closed-source software.
  - hungerstrike 8y ago
    I get it, I really do - if you can live on Linux alone that’s great. Many other people here will complain about Microsoft ads on the start menu but turn around and forgive Apple who shows you ads every time you want to update your computer via the App Store. With Windows when I remove the ad (which is just a shortcut to a non-installed app) it’s gone forever or at least a long time. Or, they will fault Microsoft for some slight lock-in with their Mail app that nobody is forced to use and completely forgive Apple for the immense level of lock in on iOS because “Apple has always only offered that” and Microsoft is not allowed to change. However, I have to put up with basic telemetry which is slightly annoying but not a showstopper for me. I can also install the enterprise version of Windows which I think I can get via my MSDN subscription. Either way, it is annoying but I can live with it.