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The new mac book pro keyboards are really good to type on, satisfying and fast. Problem is, some keys stop working properly after a while (lookup the classic b

by keyle 9y ago

The new mac book pro keyboards are really good to type on, satisfying and fast. Problem is, some keys stop working properly after a while (lookup the classic b key - stuff gets jammed in it!) But I would still call the new MBP Apple's worst keyboard because, the arrows are totally useless. If you type emails all day -> great. If you're a developer -> rubbish (yayaya I don't do VIM).

azinman2 9y ago
Your fault for not using vim :)
philwelch 9y ago
If you did use vim, and had the touchbar, it would still suck because the esc key isn't a real key anymore.
- mcphage 9y ago
  If only you remapped Capslock to Esc like 80% of the vim developers out there...
  - philwelch 9y ago
    Toggling the capslock LED by using capslock as esc would annoy the heck out of me.
    - woadwarrior01 9y ago
      The caps lock LED stops toggling after remapping it to escape on a mac.
      - philwelch 9y ago
        I might try that, then.
- krrrh 9y ago
  Apple added a built-in option to map the caps lock key to escape. This not only makes sense from a RSI and efficiency perspective but is also closer to the keyboard that vi was originally designed for (the escape key was where modern PC keyboards put the tab). A lot of dedicated vimers will use ctrl-[ instead of escape to avoid the inanity of reaching up there regardless of their keyboard, which is also a good approach if you're in the camp that maps caps lock to ctrl. http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key
- johnhenry 9y ago
  I'm not a heavy vim user, but this is THE reason I was afraid of the touch bar. It turned out not to be an issue. I honestly don't think even heavy users would have much of an issue. My only problem with the touch bar now is that it has crapped out on me more than once requiring a restart.
- jrs95 9y ago
  Everyone knows real vimmers map CAPS LOCK to esc. Maybe this whole thing was just a big troll by the Apple engineers to coax more people into doing it "the right way" ;) It's sort of like the nerdier version of the Jobsian "you're holding it wrong".

by keyle 9y ago

azinman2 9y ago

Your fault for not using vim :)

philwelch 9y ago

If you did use vim, and had the touchbar, it would still suck because the esc key isn't a real key anymore.

mcphage 9y ago
If only you remapped Capslock to Esc like 80% of the vim developers out there...
- philwelch 9y ago
  Toggling the capslock LED by using capslock as esc would annoy the heck out of me.
  - woadwarrior01 9y ago
    The caps lock LED stops toggling after remapping it to escape on a mac.
    - philwelch 9y ago
      I might try that, then.
krrrh 9y ago
Apple added a built-in option to map the caps lock key to escape. This not only makes sense from a RSI and efficiency perspective but is also closer to the keyboard that vi was originally designed for (the escape key was where modern PC keyboards put the tab). A lot of dedicated vimers will use ctrl-[ instead of escape to avoid the inanity of reaching up there regardless of their keyboard, which is also a good approach if you're in the camp that maps caps lock to ctrl. http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key
johnhenry 9y ago
I'm not a heavy vim user, but this is THE reason I was afraid of the touch bar. It turned out not to be an issue. I honestly don't think even heavy users would have much of an issue. My only problem with the touch bar now is that it has crapped out on me more than once requiring a restart.
jrs95 9y ago
Everyone knows real vimmers map CAPS LOCK to esc. Maybe this whole thing was just a big troll by the Apple engineers to coax more people into doing it "the right way" ;) It's sort of like the nerdier version of the Jobsian "you're holding it wrong".