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Anyone who was alive in the 90/00's can't be happy with microsoft, anymore than anyone who was alive in the 70s/80s can be happy with big blue. Are they differ

Anyone who was alive in the 90/00's can't be happy with microsoft, anymore than anyone who was alive in the 70s/80s can be happy with big blue. Are they different companies now? Yes. But not by choice, the market beat them down and made both irrelevant compared to what they were. I am happy with a small Microsoft and small IBM. Microsoft however is still too big for my liking.

Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
The 90's ended almost 20 years ago! They are a different company and you're just being an old fogey. As I said: Microsoft is here to stay. You can choose to be a bitter old man about it, or you can choose to be grateful that they're moving in a better direction. But you can't make them go away.
- beenBoutIT 9y ago
  They won't be the predominant OS forever. People younger than yourself share none of your enthusiasm for booting into a badly designed clutter-ridden desktop. Microsoft can't improve its aesthetic because no one with talent or vision will ever work for them for any amount of money.
  - Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
    Hah, I don't use Windows, far from it. But Microsoft is more than a single product. Few would argue that their desktop isn't dying, but they are diversifying for exactly that reason.
- incompatible 9y ago
  As long as Microsoft is still shaking down other companies for royalties for questionable patents like for exFAT, it's hard to see that they've changed.
2trill2spill 9y ago
> I am happy with a small Microsoft and small IBM. Microsoft however is still too big for my liking. So you judge companies on size, not behavior? Seriously we should celebrate companies when they contribute to opensource software, if only to encourage more contributions.
- zeth___ 9y ago
  I believe in the free market. And the first assumption of a free market is that no single supplier is large enough to significantly affect the price in the market. The smaller the firms get, the better the products.
  - jodrellblank 9y ago
    Microsoft affected the price in the market competing against literally free. That takes more than just "being big".
    - zeth___ 8y ago
      Given that you're comparing two non-interchangeable products the above is wrong. If we had one firm control 90% of oil reserves and a free for all for coal that the fossil fuel market was free.
  - mdekkers 9y ago
    Microsoft however is still too big for my liking. and I believe in the free market. come across as difficult to combine statements in my mind.
    - zeth___ 8y ago
      The free market is a market where no producer or consumer can manipulate price. It needs as much regulation to run as any Soviet Bureaucracy. The reason why it's efficient is because the price computation is distributed.

Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago

The 90's ended almost 20 years ago! They are a different company and you're just being an old fogey. As I said: Microsoft is here to stay. You can choose to be a bitter old man about it, or you can choose to be grateful that they're moving in a better direction. But you can't make them go away.

beenBoutIT 9y ago
They won't be the predominant OS forever. People younger than yourself share none of your enthusiasm for booting into a badly designed clutter-ridden desktop. Microsoft can't improve its aesthetic because no one with talent or vision will ever work for them for any amount of money.
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
  Hah, I don't use Windows, far from it. But Microsoft is more than a single product. Few would argue that their desktop isn't dying, but they are diversifying for exactly that reason.
incompatible 9y ago
As long as Microsoft is still shaking down other companies for royalties for questionable patents like for exFAT, it's hard to see that they've changed.

2trill2spill 9y ago

> I am happy with a small Microsoft and small IBM. Microsoft however is still too big for my liking. So you judge companies on size, not behavior? Seriously we should celebrate companies when they contribute to opensource software, if only to encourage more contributions.

zeth___ 9y ago
I believe in the free market. And the first assumption of a free market is that no single supplier is large enough to significantly affect the price in the market. The smaller the firms get, the better the products.
- jodrellblank 9y ago
  Microsoft affected the price in the market competing against literally free. That takes more than just "being big".
  - zeth___ 8y ago
    Given that you're comparing two non-interchangeable products the above is wrong. If we had one firm control 90% of oil reserves and a free for all for coal that the fossil fuel market was free.
- mdekkers 9y ago
  Microsoft however is still too big for my liking. and I believe in the free market. come across as difficult to combine statements in my mind.
  - zeth___ 8y ago
    The free market is a market where no producer or consumer can manipulate price. It needs as much regulation to run as any Soviet Bureaucracy. The reason why it's efficient is because the price computation is distributed.