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Exactly. Why did this kid admit that? How astronomcally low are the odds there's nothing illegal to possess in there?

by daodedickinson 8y ago

cwkoss 8y ago
He's a 19 year old kid, not a criminal mastermind
- selectodude 8y ago
  There's quite a bit of child pornography that has graced the pages of 4chan over the years.
chaboud 8y ago
"How astronomcally low are the odds there's nothing illegal to possess in there?" That is a haunting reflection of the state of affairs with regards to information and laws regarding information. Criminalizing the mere possession of information should be a tool only of the despotic and/or idiotic. Of course, these clowns left "private" information accessible by public urls without identification, so we know that they're at least idiots.
astrodust 8y ago
As the amount of 4chan material you've archived increases the probability of not archiving something illegal quickly diminishes to zero.
- Anon1096 8y ago
  Depending on the boards archived there's a pretty good chance he doesn't have CP. Only /b/ (and I hear /sp/ as well but I never go there) really ever have child porn, and then very very rarely and quickly deleted to the point that an archiver might not pick it up. Due to the sheer size and uselessness of a possible /b/ archive I kind of doubt there's anything bad.
  - hnaccy 8y ago
    If his archive was automated it's basically guaranteed he's saved a fair bit of loli content. Not sure of the legality in Canada, but this is seems like a case where they'd railroad you for something they normally don't enforce, e.g., Chris Handley in the states. CP would not be unlikely even if he just archived "safe" boards like /a/, /tv/, and /g/.
    - jstarfish 8y ago
      If he's scraping the softcore or hardcore boards (because nobody's archiving 4chan for its intellectual discussions), he's absolutely going to have more than a few under-18 subjects in there doing sexually explicit things. If the state can verify the age and identity of any of them, he's toast.
      - Anon1096 8y ago
        >nobody's scraping 4chan for its intellectual discussions You'd be surprised. There's quite a few archives out there just for keeping up board history and discussions.
      - swebs 8y ago
        >because nobody's archiving 4chan for its intellectual discussions There's plenty of good discussion as long as you stay away from /b/, /v/, and the porn boards. /diy/ always has interesting projects. /g/ seems to be the one tech board on the internet that takes consumer privacy seriously (Even HackerNews seems to give Microsoft a free pass in this regard)
  - pluma 8y ago
    Fun fact: in Germany even "lolicon" (i.e. sexual drawings of prepubescent characters) count as child pornography and as far as I know they're tolerated on /b/. I'm hoping Canadian laws treat this differently but if he were German and they found anything like that in his archive, he'd be facing child pornography possession charges.
- jopsen 8y ago
  The more systematic your collection the better your defense will be. Intent and knowledge of the illegal material of which you are in possession could easily be a requirement. I'm no laywer, but archiving the internet is hardly illegal.
  - inetknght 8y ago
    > I'm no lawyer, but archiving the internet is hardly illegal. Tell that to the part of the law enforcement that decided to arrest this kid for accessing a public website.
greedo 8y ago
If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged.

Exactly. Why did this kid admit that? How astronomcally low are the odds there's nothing illegal to possess in there?

cwkoss 8y ago

He's a 19 year old kid, not a criminal mastermind

selectodude 8y ago
There's quite a bit of child pornography that has graced the pages of 4chan over the years.

chaboud 8y ago

"How astronomcally low are the odds there's nothing illegal to possess in there?" That is a haunting reflection of the state of affairs with regards to information and laws regarding information. Criminalizing the mere possession of information should be a tool only of the despotic and/or idiotic. Of course, these clowns left "private" information accessible by public urls without identification, so we know that they're at least idiots.

astrodust 8y ago

As the amount of 4chan material you've archived increases the probability of not archiving something illegal quickly diminishes to zero.

Anon1096 8y ago
Depending on the boards archived there's a pretty good chance he doesn't have CP. Only /b/ (and I hear /sp/ as well but I never go there) really ever have child porn, and then very very rarely and quickly deleted to the point that an archiver might not pick it up. Due to the sheer size and uselessness of a possible /b/ archive I kind of doubt there's anything bad.
- hnaccy 8y ago
  If his archive was automated it's basically guaranteed he's saved a fair bit of loli content. Not sure of the legality in Canada, but this is seems like a case where they'd railroad you for something they normally don't enforce, e.g., Chris Handley in the states. CP would not be unlikely even if he just archived "safe" boards like /a/, /tv/, and /g/.
  - jstarfish 8y ago
    If he's scraping the softcore or hardcore boards (because nobody's archiving 4chan for its intellectual discussions), he's absolutely going to have more than a few under-18 subjects in there doing sexually explicit things. If the state can verify the age and identity of any of them, he's toast.
    - Anon1096 8y ago
      >nobody's scraping 4chan for its intellectual discussions You'd be surprised. There's quite a few archives out there just for keeping up board history and discussions.
    - swebs 8y ago
      >because nobody's archiving 4chan for its intellectual discussions There's plenty of good discussion as long as you stay away from /b/, /v/, and the porn boards. /diy/ always has interesting projects. /g/ seems to be the one tech board on the internet that takes consumer privacy seriously (Even HackerNews seems to give Microsoft a free pass in this regard)
- pluma 8y ago
  Fun fact: in Germany even "lolicon" (i.e. sexual drawings of prepubescent characters) count as child pornography and as far as I know they're tolerated on /b/. I'm hoping Canadian laws treat this differently but if he were German and they found anything like that in his archive, he'd be facing child pornography possession charges.
jopsen 8y ago
The more systematic your collection the better your defense will be. Intent and knowledge of the illegal material of which you are in possession could easily be a requirement. I'm no laywer, but archiving the internet is hardly illegal.
- inetknght 8y ago
  > I'm no lawyer, but archiving the internet is hardly illegal. Tell that to the part of the law enforcement that decided to arrest this kid for accessing a public website.

greedo 8y ago

If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged.