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I'm hesitant to comment on this because I expect to have my viewpoints be misrepresented as racist, but it seems difficult to integrate immigrants into society

I'm hesitant to comment on this because I expect to have my viewpoints be misrepresented as racist, but it seems difficult to integrate immigrants into society who fundamentally oppose core principles of progressive, western democracies.

systems 9y ago
we need to start dropping the term western when describing certain democratic model or ideals i am not denying, or trying to take away credit, that some western countries adopted those ideals first but not all the west agrees that those ideals are, which makes is hard to exactly identify what one is referring to when the term western is used also, it gives ownership of those ideals to specifics countries and geographic locations, which adds a needless aspect of nationalism to some ideals that should not be linked to nationalism
- canoebuilder 9y ago
  We need to stop calling Chinese food, Chinese, it's just food, man... Stop all the 'Appropriation' & 'Racism' & 'Nationalism' ™ I want the world to be more like the propaganda i was force fed throughout all my 'education,' it's draggin' me down man. Also, no more capitalization or punctuation. Damn the consequences! i mean damn the consequences
  - DoreenMichele 9y ago
    Spacesareaformofpunctuationaretheynot
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stcredzero 9y ago
it seems difficult to integrate immigrants into society who fundamentally oppose core principles of progressive, western democracies. It's difficult, but spanning as great a gulf in societal integration has been done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHr9GRgRw_M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHr9GRgRw_M
- bassman9000 9y ago
  _as great a gulf in societal integration_ It doesn't seem that cultural differences between Catholics and Protestants were that big. Economic ones, true. But those two big branches were one for 1500 years. I may be missing something here.
  - stcredzero 9y ago
    It doesn't seem that cultural differences between Catholics and Protestants were that big. Economic ones, true. Urban areas where police wouldn't go unless in groups. Terrorist/criminal organizations which administered their own law, judgements, and punishments. Political corruption. Seen by many as completely non-hire-able. The cultural gap wasn't religiously comprised, but the gulf was about as large. There was even also talk of the religious dogma of the immigrant group being incompatible with national sovereignty.

systems 9y ago

we need to start dropping the term western when describing certain democratic model or ideals i am not denying, or trying to take away credit, that some western countries adopted those ideals first but not all the west agrees that those ideals are, which makes is hard to exactly identify what one is referring to when the term western is used also, it gives ownership of those ideals to specifics countries and geographic locations, which adds a needless aspect of nationalism to some ideals that should not be linked to nationalism

canoebuilder 9y ago
We need to stop calling Chinese food, Chinese, it's just food, man... Stop all the 'Appropriation' & 'Racism' & 'Nationalism' ™ I want the world to be more like the propaganda i was force fed throughout all my 'education,' it's draggin' me down man. Also, no more capitalization or punctuation. Damn the consequences! i mean damn the consequences
- DoreenMichele 9y ago
  Spacesareaformofpunctuationaretheynot
- deleted 9y ago
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stcredzero 9y ago

it seems difficult to integrate immigrants into society who fundamentally oppose core principles of progressive, western democracies. It's difficult, but spanning as great a gulf in societal integration has been done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHr9GRgRw_M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHr9GRgRw_M

bassman9000 9y ago
_as great a gulf in societal integration_ It doesn't seem that cultural differences between Catholics and Protestants were that big. Economic ones, true. But those two big branches were one for 1500 years. I may be missing something here.
- stcredzero 9y ago
  It doesn't seem that cultural differences between Catholics and Protestants were that big. Economic ones, true. Urban areas where police wouldn't go unless in groups. Terrorist/criminal organizations which administered their own law, judgements, and punishments. Political corruption. Seen by many as completely non-hire-able. The cultural gap wasn't religiously comprised, but the gulf was about as large. There was even also talk of the religious dogma of the immigrant group being incompatible with national sovereignty.