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>doesn't matter much giving the Chinese ample time to source their bits and pieces elsewhere or even to set up domestic production. China has been trying to be

by ksk 9y ago

>doesn't matter much giving the Chinese ample time to source their bits and pieces elsewhere or even to set up domestic production. China has been trying to beg/buy/borrow/steal cutting edge semiconductor tech for ages. They're still having to import all their important chips from US/Japan/Korea/EU. IIRC they're at 100+micrometers, (leading tech from the year 2000) Far from the < 20 that intel/tsmc/etc are at.

jacquesm 9y ago
Why do you think China is so keep on keeping the world informed that Taiwan is a 'ROC'? A couple more moves like these and you might see that part dropped in return for something more forceful. Keep in mind that trade wars and sanctions are the prelude to shooting wars and that after NATO let the Russians roll all over Ukraine there is substantial doubt about whether or not the West would intervene if China made a move on Taiwan.
- JumpCrisscross 9y ago
  > Why do you think China is so keep on keeping the world informed that Taiwan is a 'ROC'? They're not. The mainland pitch is the PRC and ROC are a single country. Taiwan and the rest of the world politely (very politely) disagree. > A couple more moves like these and you might see that part dropped in return for something more forceful Well sure. Xi is now a dictator. Invading neighbours is what dictators do when they need cheap political points. More broadly, "we'll trash our neighborhood if you don't do what we want" shouldn't be accepted as valid leverage. If China mucks around with Taiwan, they do so knowing the U.S. is obligated to militarily respond.
  - Lionsion 9y ago
    > They're not. The mainland pitch is the PRC and ROC are a single country. Taiwan and the rest of the world politely (very politely) disagree. It's more complicated that that. Traditionally, the ROC also claimed that China was one country, but that ROC was its legitimate government, not the PRC. This has started to change recently as the younger generations have felt less connection to the mainland and have supported newer parties (the pan-Greens) that advocate for the independence of Taiwan as a separate county. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Blue_Coalition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Blue_Coalition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Green_Coalition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Green_Coalition

by ksk 9y ago

jacquesm 9y ago

Why do you think China is so keep on keeping the world informed that Taiwan is a 'ROC'? A couple more moves like these and you might see that part dropped in return for something more forceful. Keep in mind that trade wars and sanctions are the prelude to shooting wars and that after NATO let the Russians roll all over Ukraine there is substantial doubt about whether or not the West would intervene if China made a move on Taiwan.

JumpCrisscross 9y ago
> Why do you think China is so keep on keeping the world informed that Taiwan is a 'ROC'? They're not. The mainland pitch is the PRC and ROC are a single country. Taiwan and the rest of the world politely (very politely) disagree. > A couple more moves like these and you might see that part dropped in return for something more forceful Well sure. Xi is now a dictator. Invading neighbours is what dictators do when they need cheap political points. More broadly, "we'll trash our neighborhood if you don't do what we want" shouldn't be accepted as valid leverage. If China mucks around with Taiwan, they do so knowing the U.S. is obligated to militarily respond.
- Lionsion 9y ago
  > They're not. The mainland pitch is the PRC and ROC are a single country. Taiwan and the rest of the world politely (very politely) disagree. It's more complicated that that. Traditionally, the ROC also claimed that China was one country, but that ROC was its legitimate government, not the PRC. This has started to change recently as the younger generations have felt less connection to the mainland and have supported newer parties (the pan-Greens) that advocate for the independence of Taiwan as a separate county. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Blue_Coalition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Blue_Coalition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Green_Coalition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Green_Coalition