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How does not being conscious of all aspects of the process of choice ("ignorant (unconscious) of their true motives") somehow equate to "no free will"? If a sub
by Erlich_Bachman 9y ago
How does not being conscious of all aspects of the process of choice ("ignorant (unconscious) of their true motives") somehow equate to "no free will"? If a subconscious part of me makes a choice, and I execute - that it still me making a choice isn't it? Don't you agree that "I" have both conscious and unconscious aspects? And that both are a part of "I"?
Otherwise, do I have to logically think about every single part of myself, every single motivation, every single feeling in my entire being for it to count as free will? Why, what's the point? I have subconscious parts of me, which do a lot of the work for me. It's still my will.
(Another thread)
> Interestingly, because we also can't really "choose" (under my definition of "choice") how we see ourselves or our reality, our beliefs about choice and creativity and so on are really driven by the information that we take in and internalize.
I guess we have to strongly disagree on this one. I have consciously changed a lot of beliefs and ways of seeing myself, the world, other people, the universe, etc. - during the course of my life. I can describe the process, I see where it's going, I see where it stumbles, etc. I can definitely choose these things. This choice doesn't necessarily happen in 1 second always, sometimes it takes longer time (would be really weird if such deep foundational files/drivers in my system could even be changed overnight, wouldn't it? Seems very unstable), but it's definitely happening.