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> While many of the technologies I'd use already exist, rebuilding the web around blockchains and onion routing would require a revolution in user interface des

> While many of the technologies I'd use already exist, rebuilding the web around blockchains and onion routing would require a revolution in user interface design to have a chance; otherwise it will be a playground for the technology elite We've been working on proof-of-stake and blockchain scaling/interoperability infrastructure since 2014. It all starts with a classical BFT algorithm which provides simple light-client proofs and fork-accountability. Your mobile phone can verify transaction finality in 5 seconds, with no need for an hour of block confirmations as in Bitcoin proof-of-work mining. https://github.com/tendermint/tendermint <-- blockchain consensus engine https://github.com/cosmos/cosmos-sdk <-- blockchain framework in Go https://github.com/keppel/lotion <-- blockchain framework in JS https://github.com/cosmos/voyager <-- blockchain explorer https://github.com/tendermint/go-amino <-- blockchain codec derived from Proto3 https://cosmos.network https://tendermint.com The Cosmos Hub will launch very soon. Lets build stuff! Onion routing for Tendermint would be a great addition. And DNS/name-resolution on Tendermint can actually solve Zooko's triangle. While we're at it, lets fork Go too. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/e-lang/cQiXS_GnKS4/ZskTifaoBgAJ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/e-lang/cQiXS_GnKS4/Zsk... Disclaimer: I'm a cofounder of the Cosmos project, cofounder of Tendermint, and long-time HN lurker.

quantumwoke 8y ago
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- jaekwon 8y ago
  Thank you, does that look good?
  - quantumwoke 8y ago
    Thank you :).
progval 8y ago
> And DNS/name-resolution on Tendermint can actually solve Zooko's triangle. How?
- jaekwon 8y ago
  Zooko's triangle: Human-meaningful, Secure, Decentralized. Tendermint provides BFT security in the likes of Bitcoin proof-of-work, except without the mining. It allows for massively replicated public decentralized databases. (e.g. BFT as opposed to Raft's FT). The Tendermint algorithm guarantees that as long as less than 1/3 are malicious, the blockchain will continue to function very well. And if there ever is a double-spend attack, we can figure out who to blame (and it will necessarily be 1/3 of bonded stakeholders). The human-readable part is relatively simple. You can easily program a name-resolution system using the Cosmos SDK. Using the KVStore implementation there, you can commit the value of a name in the Merkle tree, and get a Merkle proof all the way up to the block-hash. And the block-hash is signed by 2/3 of the validator-set by voting power. There's more to it than that, but that's the gist of it. Now we can really, really securely know that a name resolves to a certain IP, and know that it would be extremely expensive to attack this system. NameCoin almost solved it but you need something like this to keep persistent state and provide Merkle proofs: https://github.com/tendermint/iavl https://github.com/tendermint/iavl . You can with the simple Bitcoin UTXO Merkle tree, but then you can't provide fast updates or revocation easily. p.s. anyone know why my parent post is getting downvoted? goes up and down, up and down ;)

quantumwoke 8y ago

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jaekwon 8y ago
Thank you, does that look good?
- quantumwoke 8y ago
  Thank you :).

progval 8y ago

> And DNS/name-resolution on Tendermint can actually solve Zooko's triangle. How?

jaekwon 8y ago
Zooko's triangle: Human-meaningful, Secure, Decentralized. Tendermint provides BFT security in the likes of Bitcoin proof-of-work, except without the mining. It allows for massively replicated public decentralized databases. (e.g. BFT as opposed to Raft's FT). The Tendermint algorithm guarantees that as long as less than 1/3 are malicious, the blockchain will continue to function very well. And if there ever is a double-spend attack, we can figure out who to blame (and it will necessarily be 1/3 of bonded stakeholders). The human-readable part is relatively simple. You can easily program a name-resolution system using the Cosmos SDK. Using the KVStore implementation there, you can commit the value of a name in the Merkle tree, and get a Merkle proof all the way up to the block-hash. And the block-hash is signed by 2/3 of the validator-set by voting power. There's more to it than that, but that's the gist of it. Now we can really, really securely know that a name resolves to a certain IP, and know that it would be extremely expensive to attack this system. NameCoin almost solved it but you need something like this to keep persistent state and provide Merkle proofs: https://github.com/tendermint/iavl https://github.com/tendermint/iavl . You can with the simple Bitcoin UTXO Merkle tree, but then you can't provide fast updates or revocation easily. p.s. anyone know why my parent post is getting downvoted? goes up and down, up and down ;)