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At beginning of WWW2, USSR had pretty good position: thousands of tanks, millions of tons of ammunition, million army, powerful ally (Germany). USSR attacked Fi
by v_lisivka 9y ago
At beginning of WWW2, USSR had pretty good position: thousands of tanks, millions of tons of ammunition, million army, powerful ally (Germany). USSR attacked Finland at winter to prevent invasion of France & Britain via Norway and Finland to attack Leningrad. It was risky move, lot of soldiers of Red Army died because of cold, but USSR won.
At beginning 1941, USSR waited for beginning of Britain bombing of Baku, to start invasion to East (to attack British military bases) with help of Germany, and then to conquer Britain islands. Everything was perfect until 22 June 1941.
- Can_Not 9y agoA non-aggression pact is not an alliance, nor does it make an ally. Hitler fundamentally hated the communists, but was also desperate to prevent the USSR from joining the war. Stalin also fundamentally hated the Nazis.
- gandhium 9y ago> non-aggression pact is not an alliance Jointly dividing Poland and having a military parade there is not an alliance? Providing secret base for U-boats - just a pact, not an alliance?
- Fins 9y agoNot even to mention the cooperation between German and Soviet secret police, massive flow of supplies from USSR to Germany etc. etc. prior to the German attack.
- Can_Not 9y agoYes, making random agreements is not an alliance.
- gandhium 9y agoRandom agreements? Like "hey, let's do something... maybe invade a few random countries"?
- Can_Not 9y agoSure, if you want to designate any random aggreement as a full on best-friends-for-life alliance, you do you, buddy. But the facts remain, Germany and the USSR were delivered facto enemies who were looking to destroy each other the first chance they get.
- gandhium 9y agoSo how it should void the fact of their pact?
- Can_Not 9y agoYes, they did sign a non-aggression pact. No, they were not allies.
- v_lisivka 9y agoIf it quacks like duck, if it looks like duck, if it walks like duck - it duck.
- Can_Not 9y agoWell first you'd need to establish that the subject in question quacks, and quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, walks, and walks like a duck. So far the only thing done here is take the definitions of things any country with geographic proximity and bare minimum willingness to negotiate would do, then redefine everything as alliance. Which fits the duck allegory perfectly, since it refers to something that is not actually a duck. https://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/you-know-phrase-if-looks-5235884 https://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/you-know-phrase-if-looks-5...