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I'm not sure how you got that impression from this article. We don't learn very much about Amber, but nothing in there seems to suggest that she's unable or unw

I'm not sure how you got that impression from this article. We don't learn very much about Amber, but nothing in there seems to suggest that she's unable or unwilling to work as hard as anybody else to achieve her dreams, merely that school doesn't offer any options which are appealing to her. I think it's very disingenuous to suggest that any paths which are not supported in current schools are "lazy and unmotivated". It's a story so common as to be a trope in media for the school dropout to end up going on to great things once they find an avenue for their enthusiasm, and the article hints that Amber may be finding something like that in her culinary work. How, then, is this meaningfully different from typically well-recieved stories about teenagers who don't get on with school but are enthusiastic engineers or programmers? The specific path is different, but the story is the same. Why should one be interpreted as "potentially the next Bill Gates" and the other as "lazy unmotivated"?

paulddraper 9y ago
> I hate waking up early. I've never seen a school start earlier than 8:15am.
- JeremyBanks 9y ago
  https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news/national/education/delaying-school-start-times-gives-students-better-chance-of-success-study/article33712790/ https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news...
- annabellish 9y ago
  8:15am is pretty darn early for an every day start. I know that personally I find starting work even at 9am less than ideal, and so shift those hours forward. You can't do that with school for obvious reasons, but that doesn't mean people who aren't morning people are lazy and unmotivated.
  - paulddraper 9y ago
    > 8:15am is pretty darn early for an every day start. ??? That's less than 4 hours before noon.... Most americans[1] are awake by 6:30am. If you sleep past 7:30am you are in the last 1 out of 6. [1] http://www.edisonresearch.com/wake-me-up-series-2/ http://www.edisonresearch.com/wake-me-up-series-2/
    - annabellish 9y ago
      Okay? 8:15am is the start of _a school day_, not the point at which a student wakes up. That's significantly earlier than the average work day, and nobody suggested the average worker woke at 9am. Are we just assuming students don't have commute times here? That isn't true for a _lot_ of people.
- HeyLaughingBoy 9y ago
  My 11th grader's high school starts at 7:10AM
JPKab 9y ago
Look, your own personal experiences with not liking waking up early aren't unique to you. I hate waking up early too, and also hated homework. But I did them. I hate merge conflicts and code reviews but I do them. The ability to delay gratification is a core element of success. Period.

paulddraper 9y ago

> I hate waking up early. I've never seen a school start earlier than 8:15am.

JeremyBanks 9y ago
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news/national/education/delaying-school-start-times-gives-students-better-chance-of-success-study/article33712790/ https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news...
annabellish 9y ago
8:15am is pretty darn early for an every day start. I know that personally I find starting work even at 9am less than ideal, and so shift those hours forward. You can't do that with school for obvious reasons, but that doesn't mean people who aren't morning people are lazy and unmotivated.
- paulddraper 9y ago
  > 8:15am is pretty darn early for an every day start. ??? That's less than 4 hours before noon.... Most americans[1] are awake by 6:30am. If you sleep past 7:30am you are in the last 1 out of 6. [1] http://www.edisonresearch.com/wake-me-up-series-2/ http://www.edisonresearch.com/wake-me-up-series-2/
  - annabellish 9y ago
    Okay? 8:15am is the start of _a school day_, not the point at which a student wakes up. That's significantly earlier than the average work day, and nobody suggested the average worker woke at 9am. Are we just assuming students don't have commute times here? That isn't true for a _lot_ of people.
HeyLaughingBoy 9y ago
My 11th grader's high school starts at 7:10AM

JPKab 9y ago

Look, your own personal experiences with not liking waking up early aren't unique to you. I hate waking up early too, and also hated homework. But I did them. I hate merge conflicts and code reviews but I do them. The ability to delay gratification is a core element of success. Period.