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How do i go back to regular Google?
- gkoberger 16y agoWhat is a Browser? (By the Google Chrome team): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ
- patio11 16y agoWelcome to every day of my life. (Everyone should watch this at least once.)
- clemesha 16y agoThat's a good vid, one that I've watched several times, but each time I'm left with the following dilemma. Should my takeaway be: "Geez, we live in a computer based society, and everyone is so insanely clueless". or should it be: "Cool, people are getting along just fine with their daily tools, not needing to know the 'details' of them". Which one is it?
- scott_s 16y agoHow well do you know the inner workings of all of the tools you use on a daily basis? Obviously you have a mental model of them. But is it accurate enough to make a similar kind of distinction between a web browser and a search engine?
- moultano 16y agoFor things like a search engine I think it makes more sense to compare it to the supply chain that produces other things that we use. The page that shows up in the web browser that we interact with is more akin to a piece of fruit we buy in the grocery store. I certainly know how to eat a banana, but I couldn't begin to tell you how many companies and technologies were involved in delivering that banana to me.
- bobds 16y agoI think someone said in another thread that some users are not really clear on whether Google is a website, a browser, an OS or something else. The user that posted this question seems to prove that point.
- wccrawford 16y agoThat's like being confused whether Pepsi is a soft drink or a company. The answer is: Yes, it is.
- Timothee 16y agoAs an example, a video made by Google that illustrates that point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ, focusing on the difference between a browser and a search engine.
- kiba 16y agoHumans are not automatic models maker. That being said, it would be interesting to see how beginners learn and explicate their models of how to use a computer.
- patrickaljord 16y ago> I think someone said in another thread that some users are not really clear on whether Google is a website, a browser, an OS It will soon be a reality with google.com, Google Chrome and Google Chrome OS.
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y agoThis is, in some senses, a sign that programming and computer systems are getting better. You don't want people to have to learn the difference between a browser and the web and a search engine and an operating system - you want things to just work. For most people once their machine is set up this is the case, and then when they want something different, they don't know what they're asking. This is a sign of success, and not a sign that the users are stupid. Although it must be admitted some of them are. So here's the question. If you run a service, how much do you insist your users learn before they can actually use it? Anything? Nothing? Added in edit: "What is a Browser" is a similar issue (linked to elsewhere from this thread, and from previous submissions: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=662105 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=662105 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=653962 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=653962 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=626482 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=626482 As I say - having people not knowing about these things is a measure of success.
- toodlestech 16y ago"You don't want people to have to learn the difference between a browser and the web and a search engine and an operating system - you want things to just work." But then such as in the linked question, you can't properly ask the right questions when your looking for an answer. What I took from the question is that they didn't want instant search which going to www.google.com doesn't get rid of. Having options and being able to change/customize can only happen if you know the basics of what you are messing around with. Not learning the difference between the web and a browser is being ignorant which in turn is what leads people to using outdated IE browsers and joyfully giving their personal information away to malware. [edit]I didn't see the date on the post at first so the instant search statement doesn't make sense but I feel it's still relevant.
- kiba 16y agoI think it's only make sense for average people who don't need to exploit computers to the nth degrees. But for people who require more power, the computer should shift to a system that let them easily learn and than manipulate that power, like emacs or like early computers that create whole generation of hackers. For most people, computers are an appliance, not a tool that you master over time. It is awesome that computers are progressing to that "easy" way, but it is not so awesome when other dimension of computers as tool slip away. It's like the computer becoming more easier for grandma while raising the barrier of entry for those who want to learn and create on the computer.
- gdulli 16y agoI thought this would be about getting rid of Google Instant, which is ridiculous and distracting. You can turn that off in search settings.
- RP_Joe 16y agoThank You
- eiji 16y agoWhich you can only change when you are logged in.
- patrickaljord 16y ago> which in your opinion is ridiculous and distracting. FTFY
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- sutro 16y agoFrom the comments: When I click on Internet, I want the Google page to appear.
- sid0 16y agoI bet it's mainly because of Google's super-aggressive pushing of Chrome on all its properties.
- Qz 16y agoFrom the top response: Google Chrome is a web browser, kind of like your tool to let you connect to the internet. There are a lot of different web browsers you can use to connect to the internet You're doing it wrong :(.
- rottencupcakes 16y agoCan I download a browser that will get rid of that loud annoying noise when I connect to AOL?
- ryanspahn 16y agoAnyone know what is being taught regarding technolgy and the Internet in the us elementary and high school systems? Is Internet 101 a mandatory class that teaches these basics and some HTML? I sure hope so! Will these type of clueless users always exist?
- spanktheuser 16y agoI wonder what percentage of the broader audience has difficulties like the one mentioned in that thread. I'm within a few weeks of launching a Web 2.0 startup focused on the mortgage industry. One of our goals is to make shopping for mortgages very easy to understand. But I'm not sure how we do that for someone who is also having problems typing "www.google.com" in an address bar. Should my goal be to make my product usable for the (I hope) 5%-10% of the market that has these sorts of difficulties? Or should I write them off, and focus on making the best product for the people out there who are more capable? It's an interesting question to ponder.
- chbarts 16y agoYet if you criticize their lack of knowledge, you're the asshole. If people evinced the same kind of ignorance about cars there would be more outrage.
- code_duck 16y agoI saw a company recently announce they would not be supporting IE6 any longer. The questions in their forums ranged from confused to bizarre. My favorite was "will I have to back up all of my [member data on their site] or will it still be here?" People truly do not understand what is going on here - they have no idea what is stored/processed a remote server, what is happening locally, what a browser or another desktop program is, etc. I thought computer illiteracy would become less of a problem as more people used computers every day, but unfortunately, it's worked differently than expected. The average level of confusion has stayed the same and the ranks of the confused have grown.