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Right, Jupyter is nice to have, but this is really over the top nonsense: Jupyter encourages individual integrity; Mathematica lets individuals hide behind cor

by iguy 9y ago

Right, Jupyter is nice to have, but this is really over the top nonsense: Jupyter encourages individual integrity; Mathematica lets individuals hide behind corporate evasion I have no idea what he's talking about re PDF export either. I print to PDF all the time, to email people a static document to look at, etc. It works just fine. (Whether you can you make book-quality formatted text easily, I've no idea, never been tempted to try.)

rexpress 9y ago
I suspect that the OP used the "Print..." command in the File menu, and selected PDF as the printer option. ISTR that this can sometimes result in poor quality results as presumably it is relying on an external PDF engine to render the notebook. Whenever I've used the "Save As..." command, choosing PDF as the target, I've also only had good quality output.
- promer 9y ago
  Nope.
- ChrisRackauckas 9y ago
  There was a bug in Mathematica 10.0.3 that messed up saving parts to PDFs though. I wonder if he was on the release where this was broken: https://mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/68893/save-as-pdf-broken-in-version-10-0-2 https://mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/68893/save-a...
promer 9y ago
iguy, agreed. You have have no idea because you haven't tried.
- coldtea 9y ago
  Defensive much? Still, that fact remains that the profit-motive accusations for them hampering PDF export are unsubstantiated.
- iguy 9y ago
  In other news, you will be shocked to hear that major journals also don't accept photographs of proofs clearly worked out on the blackboard. Although, to be fair, I have also not tested this myself.
mistermann 9y ago
The writing style is very reminiscent of Ayn Rand.
- promer 9y ago
  Ouch
  - mistermann 9y ago
    Have any downvoters actually even read Ayn Rand, or is it the usual people who don't even have to, because they know all they need to about her? This segment, with it's hyperbole, ridiculous black and white simplification of complex matters, and tone of (over)confidence is unmistakably typical of her writing style: "Jupyter rewards transparency; Mathematica rationalizes secrecy. Jupyter encourages individual integrity; Mathematica lets individuals hide behind corporate evasion. Jupyter exemplifies the social systems that emerged from the Scientific Revolution and the Enlightenment, systems that make it possible for people to cooperate by committing to objective truth; Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of social systems that took centuries to build. Membership in an open source community is like membership in the community of science. There is a straightforward process for finding a true answer to any question. People disagree in public conversations. They must explain clearly and listen to those who response with equal clarity. Members of the community pay more attention to those who have been right in the past, and to those who enhance their reputation for integrity by admitting in public when they are wrong. They shun those who mislead. There is no court of final appeal. The only recourse is to the facts. It’s a messy process but it works, the only one in all of human history that ever has. No other has ever achieved consensus at scale without recourse to coercion."

by iguy 9y ago

rexpress 9y ago

I suspect that the OP used the "Print..." command in the File menu, and selected PDF as the printer option. ISTR that this can sometimes result in poor quality results as presumably it is relying on an external PDF engine to render the notebook. Whenever I've used the "Save As..." command, choosing PDF as the target, I've also only had good quality output.

promer 9y ago
Nope.
ChrisRackauckas 9y ago
There was a bug in Mathematica 10.0.3 that messed up saving parts to PDFs though. I wonder if he was on the release where this was broken: https://mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/68893/save-as-pdf-broken-in-version-10-0-2 https://mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/68893/save-a...

promer 9y ago

iguy, agreed. You have have no idea because you haven't tried.

coldtea 9y ago
Defensive much? Still, that fact remains that the profit-motive accusations for them hampering PDF export are unsubstantiated.
iguy 9y ago
In other news, you will be shocked to hear that major journals also don't accept photographs of proofs clearly worked out on the blackboard. Although, to be fair, I have also not tested this myself.

mistermann 9y ago

The writing style is very reminiscent of Ayn Rand.

promer 9y ago
Ouch
- mistermann 9y ago
  Have any downvoters actually even read Ayn Rand, or is it the usual people who don't even have to, because they know all they need to about her? This segment, with it's hyperbole, ridiculous black and white simplification of complex matters, and tone of (over)confidence is unmistakably typical of her writing style: "Jupyter rewards transparency; Mathematica rationalizes secrecy. Jupyter encourages individual integrity; Mathematica lets individuals hide behind corporate evasion. Jupyter exemplifies the social systems that emerged from the Scientific Revolution and the Enlightenment, systems that make it possible for people to cooperate by committing to objective truth; Mathematica exemplifies the horde of new Vandals whose pursuit of private gain threatens a far greater pubic loss–the collapse of social systems that took centuries to build. Membership in an open source community is like membership in the community of science. There is a straightforward process for finding a true answer to any question. People disagree in public conversations. They must explain clearly and listen to those who response with equal clarity. Members of the community pay more attention to those who have been right in the past, and to those who enhance their reputation for integrity by admitting in public when they are wrong. They shun those who mislead. There is no court of final appeal. The only recourse is to the facts. It’s a messy process but it works, the only one in all of human history that ever has. No other has ever achieved consensus at scale without recourse to coercion."