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Oracle, I have a proposition for you. Why don't you release Java and then curl up and die? There is not a reason for you to exist. Your mojo was 20 years ago, w

by diebir 8y ago

Oracle, I have a proposition for you. Why don't you release Java and then curl up and die? There is not a reason for you to exist. Your mojo was 20 years ago, why prolong the agony. Save us all trouble and go home.

abledon 8y ago
Would it be possible that when the old guard die or retire at oracle a new guard would be more open and similar to Microsoft’s new stance on open source ?
- Spooky23 8y ago
  No. Oracle is all about delivering minimal viable product to institutional customers.
  - abledon 8y ago
    What percentage required of Alphabet+Amazon total capital would be required to just buy oracle and make java totally open source? Edit: make _all_ products open source Apache license style
    - koolba 8y ago
      What? Java is open source and there have been open source JDKs for many years.
      - abledon 8y ago
        Well, GPL is copyleft right? So I mean making the license less restrictive https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/401zm9/eli5_the_google_openjdk_vs_oracle_dispute/ https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/Android/comment...
gary__ 8y ago
I'm told Oracle's RDBMS has top notch performance at scale - I'd be interested to hear some informed discussion on the topic.
- coredog64 8y ago
  GLWT. Oracle's legal department aggressively prevents the publishing of benchmarks. The EULA for any version of the Oracle RDBMS specifically prohibits releasing benchmarks.
  - gary__ 8y ago
    Yeah, they came up with the "DeWitt Clause" and it has made its way into other database EULAs as well. Benchmarks aren't everything though, and they do have their limitations anyway.
- leoleung 8y ago
  Gary, we're working on publishing database numbers. In the meantime, we've made our compute and storage numbers public, in addition to the test suites we used, so you can reproduce the testing if desired. https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/high-performance-x7-compute-service-review-analysis https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/high-performan...

by diebir 8y ago

abledon 8y ago

Would it be possible that when the old guard die or retire at oracle a new guard would be more open and similar to Microsoft’s new stance on open source ?

Spooky23 8y ago
No. Oracle is all about delivering minimal viable product to institutional customers.
- abledon 8y ago
  What percentage required of Alphabet+Amazon total capital would be required to just buy oracle and make java totally open source? Edit: make _all_ products open source Apache license style
  - koolba 8y ago
    What? Java is open source and there have been open source JDKs for many years.
    - abledon 8y ago
      Well, GPL is copyleft right? So I mean making the license less restrictive https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/401zm9/eli5_the_google_openjdk_vs_oracle_dispute/ https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/Android/comment...

gary__ 8y ago

I'm told Oracle's RDBMS has top notch performance at scale - I'd be interested to hear some informed discussion on the topic.

coredog64 8y ago
GLWT. Oracle's legal department aggressively prevents the publishing of benchmarks. The EULA for any version of the Oracle RDBMS specifically prohibits releasing benchmarks.
- gary__ 8y ago
  Yeah, they came up with the "DeWitt Clause" and it has made its way into other database EULAs as well. Benchmarks aren't everything though, and they do have their limitations anyway.
leoleung 8y ago
Gary, we're working on publishing database numbers. In the meantime, we've made our compute and storage numbers public, in addition to the test suites we used, so you can reproduce the testing if desired. https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/high-performance-x7-compute-service-review-analysis https://blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/high-performan...