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>"These days, it's not the legacy. It is mostly regulation pushed by Chuck Schume" The OPs comment was that the airlines were burdened by legacy from the 1950s

>"These days, it's not the legacy. It is mostly regulation pushed by Chuck Schume" The OPs comment was that the airlines were burdened by legacy from the 1950s. Mr Schumer's legislation is quite recent. Additionally the legislation "Passenger Bill of Rights" is quite reasonable - let your customers off the plane after 3 hours of delay. It's pretty easy to avoid that penalty. It's also worth pointing out that legislation was in response to unreasonable practices by the airlines in the first place. I'm not sure why it is even relevant here. >"The main legacy are the huge health care and retirement obligations" How is this relevant to discussion about the practice of intentionally overbooking?

nanis 9y ago
So-called "Passenger Bill of Rights" takes away options from passengers[1]. "We found that for every minute of tarmac time being saved there is, on average, a three-minute increase in the total passenger delay," said Vikrant Vaze, an assistant professor at Dartmouth's Thayer School of Engineering who co-authored the study. Adopted in 2010, the Transportation Department rule requires that passengers be allowed to deplane within three hours of boarding or landing for domestic flights. Airlines are subject to fines of up to $27,500 per passenger for violations. Hoping to avoid fines, airlines have been quicker to pull the plug on flights, Vaze said. That forces passengers to scramble to find another flight to reach their destination, something that has become increasingly difficult as industry consolidation reduces the number of available seats on planes. Flights that are not canceled have to start lining up anew after letting passengers deplane and then reboard, adding to the ultimate delay. "Most of these extra delays are being felt by those exact same passengers," Vaze said. "It's just that they're not on the tarmac." [1]: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-tarmac-delays-0105-biz-20160104-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-tarmac-delays-0105...
- bogomipz 9y ago
  Again there is no reason the airlines can't let people off the plane after a couple of hours in order to avoid penalties. And it's unclear why you are holding this up as "burdensome" legislation.
- ryanwaggoner 9y ago
  Just FYI, quoting like this makes it impossible to read on mobile. Better to wrap in asterisks.

nanis 9y ago

So-called "Passenger Bill of Rights" takes away options from passengers[1]. "We found that for every minute of tarmac time being saved there is, on average, a three-minute increase in the total passenger delay," said Vikrant Vaze, an assistant professor at Dartmouth's Thayer School of Engineering who co-authored the study. Adopted in 2010, the Transportation Department rule requires that passengers be allowed to deplane within three hours of boarding or landing for domestic flights. Airlines are subject to fines of up to $27,500 per passenger for violations. Hoping to avoid fines, airlines have been quicker to pull the plug on flights, Vaze said. That forces passengers to scramble to find another flight to reach their destination, something that has become increasingly difficult as industry consolidation reduces the number of available seats on planes. Flights that are not canceled have to start lining up anew after letting passengers deplane and then reboard, adding to the ultimate delay. "Most of these extra delays are being felt by those exact same passengers," Vaze said. "It's just that they're not on the tarmac." [1]: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-tarmac-delays-0105-biz-20160104-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-tarmac-delays-0105...

bogomipz 9y ago
Again there is no reason the airlines can't let people off the plane after a couple of hours in order to avoid penalties. And it's unclear why you are holding this up as "burdensome" legislation.
ryanwaggoner 9y ago
Just FYI, quoting like this makes it impossible to read on mobile. Better to wrap in asterisks.