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Via outline.com: https://outline.com/VY5L3z https://outline.com/VY5L3z

by jey 9y ago

koolba 9y ago
While I love the utility of it, how the hell is that website legal? It’s stated purpose is to violate copyright law?! From the page trailer: > Outline is a free service that makes websites more readable. We remove the clutter, like ads, related links, and comments—so you can read comfortably.
- lallysingh 9y ago
  From the latency, it looks like it doesn't cache. So it's literally transformative. If that matters, I don't know.
  - fjsolwmv 9y ago
    Where did this "editing a copy makes it transformative" meme come from? Legally, transformative means "created a substantially new work" not "mechanically applied a style change that preserves all of the original content and its original value"
    - lallysingh 9y ago
      It's a bunch of legal laymen conjecturing on legal issues.
    - woolvalley 9y ago
      By that logic adblock, readable mode, applying your own css and making the text bigger with cmd-+ is 'copyright' infringement since every modification is modifying some copy in memory.
- fsniper 9y ago
  It's not the only service that does this. Even browsers have out of the box support for some of them.
  - nothrabannosir 9y ago
    Browsers don’t redistribute the content. That’s a crucial difference, much like you can video tape a broadcast and fast forward through the ads at home, but not if you run a pub.
    - crx087 9y ago
      I haven't looked at the code, but maybe this site doesn't redistribute anything, either. And just because something's executing on the server side, that really shouldn't necessarily change the legality of it. (Hell, maybe Safari or Chrome look like they're doing it locally and tunnel data through a cache server.)
- godzillabrennus 9y ago
  I doubt it’s legs but it’s useful so it’ll get traction and then get sued.
- briandear 9y ago
  I always wonder: how are journalists supposed to get paid when people steal their content?
  - fjsolwmv 9y ago
    "Real journlaists do it for the love of their art."
    - lifeformed 9y ago
      They do it for exposure.
      - scarface74 9y ago
        To bring up an old meme.... 1. Journalists get exposure 2. ??? 3. Profit.
- ec109685 9y ago
  They have a convoluted dmca take down process, which is described here and may keep them in clear?: https://www.outline.com/dmca.html https://www.outline.com/dmca.html
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Via outline.com: https://outline.com/VY5L3z https://outline.com/VY5L3z

by jey 9y ago

Via outline.com: https://outline.com/VY5L3z https://outline.com/VY5L3z

While I love the utility of it, how the hell is that website legal? It’s stated purpose is to violate copyright law?! From the page trailer: > Outline is a free service that makes websites more readable. We remove the clutter, like ads, related links, and comments—so you can read comfortably.

lallysingh 9y ago
From the latency, it looks like it doesn't cache. So it's literally transformative. If that matters, I don't know.
- fjsolwmv 9y ago
  Where did this "editing a copy makes it transformative" meme come from? Legally, transformative means "created a substantially new work" not "mechanically applied a style change that preserves all of the original content and its original value"
  - lallysingh 9y ago
    It's a bunch of legal laymen conjecturing on legal issues.
  - woolvalley 9y ago
    By that logic adblock, readable mode, applying your own css and making the text bigger with cmd-+ is 'copyright' infringement since every modification is modifying some copy in memory.
fsniper 9y ago
It's not the only service that does this. Even browsers have out of the box support for some of them.
- nothrabannosir 9y ago
  Browsers don’t redistribute the content. That’s a crucial difference, much like you can video tape a broadcast and fast forward through the ads at home, but not if you run a pub.
  - crx087 9y ago
    I haven't looked at the code, but maybe this site doesn't redistribute anything, either. And just because something's executing on the server side, that really shouldn't necessarily change the legality of it. (Hell, maybe Safari or Chrome look like they're doing it locally and tunnel data through a cache server.)
godzillabrennus 9y ago
I doubt it’s legs but it’s useful so it’ll get traction and then get sued.
briandear 9y ago
I always wonder: how are journalists supposed to get paid when people steal their content?
- fjsolwmv 9y ago
  "Real journlaists do it for the love of their art."
  - lifeformed 9y ago
    They do it for exposure.
    - scarface74 9y ago
      To bring up an old meme.... 1. Journalists get exposure 2. ??? 3. Profit.
ec109685 9y ago
They have a convoluted dmca take down process, which is described here and may keep them in clear?: https://www.outline.com/dmca.html https://www.outline.com/dmca.html

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