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> "Some sell out completely to Typescript and the Microsoft way of doing things" > "this trend is subjective dogma not objective value" Ironically, the author
by Blackstone4 9y ago
> "Some sell out completely to Typescript and the Microsoft way of doing things"
> "this trend is subjective dogma not objective value"
Ironically, the author own phrasing is not objective and somewhat hypocritical. S/He described the use of Typescript as "selling out and the Microsoft way of doing things". S/He's trying to leverage anti-Microsoft sentiment to boost her/his argument. Feels more like a smear campaign then an objective opinion.
- swebs 9y agoTo be fair, the anti-Microsoft sentiment didn't just pop up out of nowhere. I've been burned by Microsoft's bullshit so many times that I will go out of my way to deny them any semblance of power, lest they try to leverage it for some new anti-consumer vendor lock-in scheme. How's that old saying go? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 47 times, shame on me.
- dhimes 9y agowon't get fooled again :)
- smoyer 9y agoCompletely OT: Unfortunately I can't hear that song anymore without picturing the opening scenes of CSI Miami.
- renw0rp 9y agoapple is the new Microsoft, and people keep throwing money at them... also, even though the MS anti-sentiment didn't pop up out of nowhere, it's not relevant in the static-vs-dynamic typing discussion...
- brandall10 9y agoAnti-MS sentiment is related to its business practices and perhaps dev community itself, not tooling. I've never seen a person who actually is familiar with Typescript say anything negative about it, and it has huge uptake in the open source community.
- olavgg 9y agoOh Microsoft has also been involved with tooling, you know how they sold that SOAP crap. They made it complex by purpose, so you had to buy tools to work with SOAP. Ref Book: The New Kingmakers "It’s hard to feel too sorry for SOAP’s creators, however — particularly if what one Microsoft developer told Tim O’Reilly is true: “It was actually a Microsoft objective to make [SOAP] sufficiently complex that only the tools would read and write this stuff,” he explained, “and not humans.”"
- brandall10 9y agoHa... there are def many things they've been involved in that were questionable from that perspective, but I'd still put that under the domain of business practices. I guess my take is overall they earned high marks from the dev community despite whatever misses they may have had over the years.
- Blackstone4 9y agoTo be fair?! I was addressing the phrasing and lack of objectivity of the Typescript statement. At no point did I discuss the merits of anti MS sentiment. Yes I agree with you that MS has burnt people in the past. At the same time it's not binary so 100% of MS != evil.
- smoyer 9y agoI'm not a Microsoft hater but I also haven't needed their software for my job in quite some time. I am however a Microsoft Project hater (don't ever try the auto-level resources function). But someone was demonstrating (Terraform I think) using Visual Studio Code and I fell in love with the editor. It's now my primary IDE, it's Microsoft and it's completely OSS.
- GioM 9y agoHe/Him. The author has a clear preference[1], please use it. [1] http://codylindley.com/ http://codylindley.com/