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Let's not forget that that previous grand experiment certainly did not look like a failure for 20-30, some say 50 years. Even after that there was a never-endin
by candiodari 9y ago
Let's not forget that that previous grand experiment certainly did not look like a failure for 20-30, some say 50 years. Even after that there was a never-ending chorus of people proclaiming it's success. And yes, that was because they were of a particular political bent, but still ... Some still haven't gone silent.
Unless of course, you were one of it's subjects living within it's borders. Then there was no doubt. Even now, very few Russians outside of Russia are socialists. Given that most of them would only have experienced Soviet Russia as small children or through stories of family members, that's quite an accomplishment.
Most Chinese outside of China seem to be, one terrified of their opinion becoming known. Two terrified of returning to China without the option to leave again (in fact quite a few seem to have changed opinion in the last few years. They seem to think that traveling there at all could result in never returning). Three they seem to be terrified of having their money anywhere near or otherwise dependent on China.
- k__ 9y agoBut they didn't have the technology. Maybe with help of good IT, this is manageable better?
- baybal2 9y ago>Maybe with help of good IT, this is manageable better? USSR's math and science was on the global forefront during upswing years. I dare anybody to deny that. Soviet cybernetics was just few steps away from Norbert Wiener's school, up until the point Khrushev decided to put a lid on it. USSR was the only country to apply real hardcore math to economic modelling and planning. Yet, no mathematical model survived its first encounter with an average soviet bureaucrat.
- smaddox 9y agoCommunism didn't fail for lack of top-down control. It failed because of too much top-down control (to oversimplify to the extreme).
- k__ 9y agoI had the impression it failed because the planning was bad. So the logical consequence for me would be, if the plans were outdated, better IT would allow to change them faster.
- ataturk 9y agoGood IT? Wake up! Anyone who disagrees with the leaders gets a bullet in the back of the head. The people who marched in Tianamen Square got a mass grave for their troubles. And even if you're a party faithful, they will kill you if it fits with whatever is they want to accomplish. The Chinese people HAVE NO RIGHTS. So let's not pretend there's some kind of special technological communism that isn't like this. ETA: The average Chinese family is DESPERATE to get out, get their wealth out, or otherwise escape the anthill any way they can.