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>Apple has bricked iPhones during iOS upgrades if those devices weren't using genuine Apple displays. >Apple has bricked iPhones during iOS upgrades if you repl

>Apple has bricked iPhones during iOS upgrades if those devices weren't using genuine Apple displays. >Apple has bricked iPhones during iOS upgrades if you replaced the touch ID, regardless of whether it was a genuine part or not. >The iPhone X camera module is a separate part form the display yet if you replace the display genuine or not while keeping the original camera module, it stops working for facial authentication. This is incorrect and a complete oversimplification of what actually happened. In every single one of the cases you mention, the device was bricked because having the part displayed broke the chain of encryption from the secure enclave to the device in question - Touch ID or Face ID. If you can't verify the chain of trust, there's no way for the device to accurately tell that the security measures that are in place are working correctly with any kind of certainty. In fact, Apple reversed the Touch ID issue by simply notifying the user that a third-party display had disabled Touch ID (because the Touch ID module key no longer matched the key in the secure enclave). The software simply wasn't designed to allow insecure use of the device and it was fixed within less than a week. You're either simply ignorant of how these situations came to be or you're being disingenuous because the inaccurate click-bait headline is easy to use to confirm and support your suspicions.

cptskippy 9y ago
> This is incorrect and a complete oversimplification of what actually happened. In every single one of the cases you mention, the device was bricked because having the part displayed broke the chain of encryption from the secure enclave to the device in question - Touch ID or Face ID. If you can't verify the chain of trust, there's no way for the device to accurately tell that the security measures that are in place are working correctly with any kind of certainty. It's not incorrect just incomplete because even genuine parts would fail validation and result in a bricked device. > In fact, Apple reversed the Touch ID issue by simply notifying the user that a third-party display had disabled Touch ID > You're either simply ignorant of how these situations came to be or you're being disingenuous Now who is being disingenuous and/or ignorant? Only Apple could replace or repair your screen/button and have Touch ID work. When users had their screens repaired using non genuine parts they were fulled aware that Touch ID wasn't going to work. The devices didn't brick themselves on first boot. They disabled Touch ID and access to the secure enclave but continued to work. Then Apple released an iOS update that bricked their phones for their safety. Then they back pedaled and released a patch so that instead of bricking devices it just notified the user of what they already knew.
- dpkonofa 9y ago
  >It's not incorrect just incomplete because even genuine parts would fail validation and result in a bricked device. Genuine parts would only fail if they were installed without rekeying Touch ID. It didn't matter that the parts were genuine Apple parts or not. It mattered that Touch ID and the secure enclave were no longer paired after the hardware keys no longer matched between the 2.
  - cptskippy 9y ago
    Right, why does that warrant bricking the phone? Or in the case of the iPhone 7, disabling the home button?
    - Karunamon 9y ago
      “Bricking the phone” was a bug and was fixed. Disabling Touch ID is necessary to support the security of the phone. I don’t want a state actor installing a crocked module and use it to break the phone’s security.
      - cptskippy 9y ago
        > "Bricking the phone” was a bug and was fixed. It wasn't a bug according to Apple. First they said it was deliberate then after the story blew up they said it was a test feature never intended to leave the factory. They never said it was a bug, the behavior was intentional. > Disabling Touch ID is necessary to support the security of the phone. I don’t want a state actor installing a crocked module and use it to break the phone’s security. No one is disputing that, why do you keep bringing it up? Are you trying to downplay the fact that they are intentionally screwing over people who don't get repairs through them? Why does swapping the Touch ID module necessitate disabling the home button as well as Touch ID in the iPhone 7?

cptskippy 9y ago

> This is incorrect and a complete oversimplification of what actually happened. In every single one of the cases you mention, the device was bricked because having the part displayed broke the chain of encryption from the secure enclave to the device in question - Touch ID or Face ID. If you can't verify the chain of trust, there's no way for the device to accurately tell that the security measures that are in place are working correctly with any kind of certainty. It's not incorrect just incomplete because even genuine parts would fail validation and result in a bricked device. > In fact, Apple reversed the Touch ID issue by simply notifying the user that a third-party display had disabled Touch ID > You're either simply ignorant of how these situations came to be or you're being disingenuous Now who is being disingenuous and/or ignorant? Only Apple could replace or repair your screen/button and have Touch ID work. When users had their screens repaired using non genuine parts they were fulled aware that Touch ID wasn't going to work. The devices didn't brick themselves on first boot. They disabled Touch ID and access to the secure enclave but continued to work. Then Apple released an iOS update that bricked their phones for their safety. Then they back pedaled and released a patch so that instead of bricking devices it just notified the user of what they already knew.

dpkonofa 9y ago
>It's not incorrect just incomplete because even genuine parts would fail validation and result in a bricked device. Genuine parts would only fail if they were installed without rekeying Touch ID. It didn't matter that the parts were genuine Apple parts or not. It mattered that Touch ID and the secure enclave were no longer paired after the hardware keys no longer matched between the 2.
- cptskippy 9y ago
  Right, why does that warrant bricking the phone? Or in the case of the iPhone 7, disabling the home button?
  - Karunamon 9y ago
    “Bricking the phone” was a bug and was fixed. Disabling Touch ID is necessary to support the security of the phone. I don’t want a state actor installing a crocked module and use it to break the phone’s security.
    - cptskippy 9y ago
      > "Bricking the phone” was a bug and was fixed. It wasn't a bug according to Apple. First they said it was deliberate then after the story blew up they said it was a test feature never intended to leave the factory. They never said it was a bug, the behavior was intentional. > Disabling Touch ID is necessary to support the security of the phone. I don’t want a state actor installing a crocked module and use it to break the phone’s security. No one is disputing that, why do you keep bringing it up? Are you trying to downplay the fact that they are intentionally screwing over people who don't get repairs through them? Why does swapping the Touch ID module necessitate disabling the home button as well as Touch ID in the iPhone 7?