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Is anyone really surprised by this? We (America) just signed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act into law last mont

by rotrux 9y ago

Is anyone really surprised by this? We (America) just signed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act into law last month without so much as a blip from The AP or Thompson Reuters. The internet is sorta like the printing-press but more important. Of course it's threatening the powers-that-be & of course they're gonna' try and get that under control.

tzs 9y ago
> We (America) just signed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act into law last month without so much as a blip from The AP or Thompson Reuters. Blip from Reuters: [1] Blip from AP: [2] [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-microsoft/u-s-spending-bill-includes-bid-to-solve-international-email-privacy-impasse-idUSKBN1GY07K https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-microsoft/u-s-s... [2] https://apnews.com/d22a0de1f9434490b938ec1db8e149ef/Budget-bill-likely-would-end-Supreme-Court-email-search-case https://apnews.com/d22a0de1f9434490b938ec1db8e149ef/Budget-b...
incompatible 9y ago
The idea that the powers-that-be are working on getting this new Internet thing under their control has been a recurring meme for a long time. I'm sure it was around in the 1990s. They don't seem to have been doing a good job so far; unless they are somehow secretly behind Google and Facebook.
- rotrux 8y ago
  > "...I'm sure it was around in the 1990s. They don't seem to have been doing a good job so far" Totally agree except RE: the last year or so. If you look closely "they" appear to be wising-up. The CLOUD act (at least how I'm reading it) says that the American internet is American...in other words, "If we wanna subpoena your s#!t in Thailand, we can cuz your cloud-provider is probably based in Seattle, WA, USA." Law is ultimately about precedent, and there is now a precedent for America to get a warrant allowing them to see any American company's consumer-data, regardless of where that data is geographically.

by rotrux 9y ago

tzs 9y ago

> We (America) just signed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act into law last month without so much as a blip from The AP or Thompson Reuters. Blip from Reuters: [1] Blip from AP: [2] [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-microsoft/u-s-spending-bill-includes-bid-to-solve-international-email-privacy-impasse-idUSKBN1GY07K https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-microsoft/u-s-s... [2] https://apnews.com/d22a0de1f9434490b938ec1db8e149ef/Budget-bill-likely-would-end-Supreme-Court-email-search-case https://apnews.com/d22a0de1f9434490b938ec1db8e149ef/Budget-b...

incompatible 9y ago

The idea that the powers-that-be are working on getting this new Internet thing under their control has been a recurring meme for a long time. I'm sure it was around in the 1990s. They don't seem to have been doing a good job so far; unless they are somehow secretly behind Google and Facebook.

rotrux 8y ago
> "...I'm sure it was around in the 1990s. They don't seem to have been doing a good job so far" Totally agree except RE: the last year or so. If you look closely "they" appear to be wising-up. The CLOUD act (at least how I'm reading it) says that the American internet is American...in other words, "If we wanna subpoena your s#!t in Thailand, we can cuz your cloud-provider is probably based in Seattle, WA, USA." Law is ultimately about precedent, and there is now a precedent for America to get a warrant allowing them to see any American company's consumer-data, regardless of where that data is geographically.