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Pensions would work a lot better if they were independently managed and firewalled from the employer. A family member has a state pension in one of the states
by pasbesoin 9y ago
Pensions would work a lot better if they were independently managed and firewalled from the employer.
A family member has a state pension in one of the states known for having some of the worst of these problems.
However, their corner of state employment was smart and set up an independent pension management situation. It remains fully funded and not at risk. Well, except that the state keeps trying to break down the firewall and raid it.
However, people who instantiated it did a good job of guarding against this.
Pensions aren't "evil". And who wouldn't mind worrying less about making retirement decisions as an amateur investor on one's own, and focusing more on doing a good job and raising a family and having a happy life?
What is "evil", is structuring them without defense against expropriation of funding for other purposes. As far as I'm concern, that is "theft", plain and simple. And failing to fund them per established schedule is breach of contract. You are essentially not paying employees for work done.
Maybe given that, well defined in law and practice, organizations also wouldn't make unrealistic pension commitments in lieu of providing better immediate compensation and benefits.
In addition to all the rest, there is the aspect of the turn to 401K's and similar vehicles, that money managers saw and pushed an opportunity to grow the fees they collect.
I held off from writing it a couple of paragraphs ago, but I'll say it now. Pensions aren't a fundamental problem. Banksters and their political enablers are.
- lotsofpulp 9y agoFees to manage pension fund investments are higher than 401k fees for index funds offered by Vanguard/Schwab/Fidelity.
- pasbesoin 9y agoThose have only really caught on more recently. And as more and more investment moves into them, they become mono-cultures vulnerable to large-scale exploitation. I'm using some right now, but I don't count on their indefinite viability and performance. Remember how LIBOR exposed fundamental problems and manipulation with respect to indexing and pricing? Different aspect of finance. Nonetheless, you're pinning everything to indexes someone manages -- and to systems performance versus competition. They do reflect a similar aspect; taking the average investor's attention away from individual purchases and sales, where most get fleeced to varying degrees. Wherever your investments, you have to keep paying attention. P.S. Have an upvote. I'm not disagreeing.
- lotsofpulp 9y agoI agree that there is concern for large scale manipulation, but it seems like that concern is still there with actively managed investments. Especially from governments manipulating via bailouts. At least with passive index, you're only paying a few basis points.