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Sites like https://steemit.com https://steemit.com http://minds.com http://minds.com appear to be gaining some traction with actual users. I felt Diaspora had f

Sites like https://steemit.com https://steemit.com http://minds.com http://minds.com appear to be gaining some traction with actual users. I felt Diaspora had failed to take off and lost its opportunity, although now that FB has lost its halo in suburbia there might be new opportunities for change in people's habits...

loceng 9y ago
Thinking through to the depths as to why sites like Steemit and Minds are gaining traction is a worthwhile exercise.
- olivermarks 9y ago
  you mean because of the crypto rewards model? We appear to be entering the early stages of an era of splintering into dozens of locations to interact again and away from the giant centralized networks
  - loceng 9y ago
    That's part of it. The problem relating to centralized networks is trust or the lack thereof. Forcing or pressuring for collaboration through incentive structures - that are structured as Pyramid-Ponzi schemes - is highly successful early on because of the potential reward, relatively little risk individually. This kind of incentive structure however promotes all kinds of bad behaviour, which can only be managed through a central-trusted governance - so then we're back to square one.
nik736 9y ago
Someone on steemit pirated my content and there is no way to reach them to take it down. Now someone is earning money with an article that took me 3 days to write.
- Lngv 9y ago
  That's the point of Steemit. There's no such thing as piracy. It was never your content. Try to make money through labour instead of licensing.
  - olivermarks 9y ago
    https://gab.ai https://gab.ai is another one I noticed earlier this week, hard to tell what volume of users there actually are though
    - bemused 9y ago
      "Twitter for racists" - the common mindset in this echo chamber is a lot easier to tell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)
      - olivermarks 9y ago
        'Twitter for racists' is too easy. I'm a big fan of free speech and against censorship. Lots of pretty red blooded and objectionable discussion and posturing on there ( I set up an account to explore) but it has to be vented somewhere by people and I think it's better in the open. The whole FB anodyne institutional blue bland discussion thing has run its course I feel...
  - nik736 9y ago
    If I write an article, release it on MY blog on MY website. How is it not my content?
    - Lngv 9y ago
      Because you released it.

loceng 9y ago

Thinking through to the depths as to why sites like Steemit and Minds are gaining traction is a worthwhile exercise.

olivermarks 9y ago
you mean because of the crypto rewards model? We appear to be entering the early stages of an era of splintering into dozens of locations to interact again and away from the giant centralized networks
- loceng 9y ago
  That's part of it. The problem relating to centralized networks is trust or the lack thereof. Forcing or pressuring for collaboration through incentive structures - that are structured as Pyramid-Ponzi schemes - is highly successful early on because of the potential reward, relatively little risk individually. This kind of incentive structure however promotes all kinds of bad behaviour, which can only be managed through a central-trusted governance - so then we're back to square one.

nik736 9y ago

Someone on steemit pirated my content and there is no way to reach them to take it down. Now someone is earning money with an article that took me 3 days to write.

Lngv 9y ago
That's the point of Steemit. There's no such thing as piracy. It was never your content. Try to make money through labour instead of licensing.
- olivermarks 9y ago
  https://gab.ai https://gab.ai is another one I noticed earlier this week, hard to tell what volume of users there actually are though
  - bemused 9y ago
    "Twitter for racists" - the common mindset in this echo chamber is a lot easier to tell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)
    - olivermarks 9y ago
      'Twitter for racists' is too easy. I'm a big fan of free speech and against censorship. Lots of pretty red blooded and objectionable discussion and posturing on there ( I set up an account to explore) but it has to be vented somewhere by people and I think it's better in the open. The whole FB anodyne institutional blue bland discussion thing has run its course I feel...
- nik736 9y ago
  If I write an article, release it on MY blog on MY website. How is it not my content?
  - Lngv 9y ago
    Because you released it.