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>The reason why Apple doesn't want any Joe-schmoe just yanking and replacing caps and other components is simple: quality control. I can barely count on two han

by ksk 9y ago

>The reason why Apple doesn't want any Joe-schmoe just yanking and replacing caps and other components is simple: quality control. I can barely count on two hands people I would be comfortable working on the innards of a PC, let alone my phone and even then let alone desoldering and soldering new components onboard. And yet people are perfectly OK with a greasy mechanic fixing their metal cage hurtling down the freeway at 65 miles per hour. Your attempt to demean skilled repair workers is rather telling of your own bias.

urda 9y ago
> And yet people are perfectly OK with a greasy mechanic fixing their metal cage hurtling down the freeway at 65 miles per hour. Your attempt to demean skilled repair workers is rather telling of your own bias. Woah I didn't know you could read my mind! For a matter of fact, I'm also very picky on who works or touches my car just for your information. Drop the strawman it's unbecoming. Second, there's an entire industry and certification to auto mechanics much like a trained repairman would be for phones. Third, since when is a "Joe-schmoe" a skilled repair worker? I fully do not expect the common citizen to even know how to do a basic soldier, let alone replace parts on a packed PCB. I didn't mention anything about skilled repair workers, nor is that demeaning to point out the abilities to repair small electronic devices like phones is not just a "walk in the park". Drop the attacks and focus on the article, this is HN not reddit.
- ksk 9y ago
  >Woah I didn't know you could read my mind! Oh, but you certainly are able to determine the skill level of people you don't know. Nice. Quoting you: >The reason why Apple doesn't want any Joe-schmoe just yanking and replacing caps and other components is simple: quality control. You called them joe-schmoe, and questioned the quality of their work. Yeah, maybe in your alternate universe that considered praise. Normal people read that as an insult. Let me suggest some alternate wording "a competent technician will use their extensive knowledge, and repair your device" >Drop the attacks and focus on the article, this is HN not reddit. I would invite you to take your own advice first. >I didn't mention anything about skilled repair workers, nor is that demeaning to point out the abilities to repair small electronic devices like phones is not just a "walk in the park". Please point to the text arguing that repairing devices is a "walk in the park".
- Someone1234 9y ago
  > Drop the attacks and focus on the article, this is HN not reddit. You cannot credibly post that when you yourself minutes earlier posted this: > Failing to understand that means I cannot discuss this article with you at all since a really important common understanding has been missed on your part. Want to follow your own advice?
  - urda 9y ago
    > > Failing to understand that means I cannot discuss this article with you at all since a really important common understanding has been missed on your part. > Want to follow your own advice? That's not a personal attack at all, and if you think it is you really are lost here on HN. So I'll remind you again and end further discussion: I cannot discuss this article with you at all because not only did you fail to see the original point but now you're just looking to troll about.
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  - dang 9y ago
    Please don't engage in petty spats here, regardless of how wrong or annoying you find other comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - Someone1234 9y ago
      Sorry. I lost my head there for a sec, most of my posts are more constructive/on-topic than that (I'd like to think). I'll try to be better going to forward.
logfromblammo 9y ago
Quality control only happens on premises you control. Once the product reaches the point-of-sale terminal, the consumer own it, and the QC job is done. You send your product out onto the free market and have to hope you raised it well enough to uphold your brand. It isn't about QC; it's about money. It's the same reason every car dealership has an in-house repair department. Branded repairs mean that people can still buy the brand after they already own the product. Counterfeits cut into that revenue stream.

by ksk 9y ago

urda 9y ago

> And yet people are perfectly OK with a greasy mechanic fixing their metal cage hurtling down the freeway at 65 miles per hour. Your attempt to demean skilled repair workers is rather telling of your own bias. Woah I didn't know you could read my mind! For a matter of fact, I'm also very picky on who works or touches my car just for your information. Drop the strawman it's unbecoming. Second, there's an entire industry and certification to auto mechanics much like a trained repairman would be for phones. Third, since when is a "Joe-schmoe" a skilled repair worker? I fully do not expect the common citizen to even know how to do a basic soldier, let alone replace parts on a packed PCB. I didn't mention anything about skilled repair workers, nor is that demeaning to point out the abilities to repair small electronic devices like phones is not just a "walk in the park". Drop the attacks and focus on the article, this is HN not reddit.

ksk 9y ago
>Woah I didn't know you could read my mind! Oh, but you certainly are able to determine the skill level of people you don't know. Nice. Quoting you: >The reason why Apple doesn't want any Joe-schmoe just yanking and replacing caps and other components is simple: quality control. You called them joe-schmoe, and questioned the quality of their work. Yeah, maybe in your alternate universe that considered praise. Normal people read that as an insult. Let me suggest some alternate wording "a competent technician will use their extensive knowledge, and repair your device" >Drop the attacks and focus on the article, this is HN not reddit. I would invite you to take your own advice first. >I didn't mention anything about skilled repair workers, nor is that demeaning to point out the abilities to repair small electronic devices like phones is not just a "walk in the park". Please point to the text arguing that repairing devices is a "walk in the park".
Someone1234 9y ago
> Drop the attacks and focus on the article, this is HN not reddit. You cannot credibly post that when you yourself minutes earlier posted this: > Failing to understand that means I cannot discuss this article with you at all since a really important common understanding has been missed on your part. Want to follow your own advice?
- urda 9y ago
  > > Failing to understand that means I cannot discuss this article with you at all since a really important common understanding has been missed on your part. > Want to follow your own advice? That's not a personal attack at all, and if you think it is you really are lost here on HN. So I'll remind you again and end further discussion: I cannot discuss this article with you at all because not only did you fail to see the original point but now you're just looking to troll about.
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- dang 9y ago
  Please don't engage in petty spats here, regardless of how wrong or annoying you find other comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - Someone1234 9y ago
    Sorry. I lost my head there for a sec, most of my posts are more constructive/on-topic than that (I'd like to think). I'll try to be better going to forward.

logfromblammo 9y ago

Quality control only happens on premises you control. Once the product reaches the point-of-sale terminal, the consumer own it, and the QC job is done. You send your product out onto the free market and have to hope you raised it well enough to uphold your brand. It isn't about QC; it's about money. It's the same reason every car dealership has an in-house repair department. Branded repairs mean that people can still buy the brand after they already own the product. Counterfeits cut into that revenue stream.