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> Every centralized app preserves an ability to eventually spy on you. End-to-end encryption doesn't take it away. Never said anything like that. > If a gover
by magic_quotes 8y ago
> Every centralized app preserves an ability to eventually spy on you. End-to-end encryption doesn't take it away.
Never said anything like that.
> If a government wants mass surveillance it either asks/coerces someone from the company to implement a backdoor or blocks the app in the country pushing people into mass surveillance friendly alternatives.
Yes.
> So end-to-end encryption cannot possibly protect from mass surveillance.
Are you arguing for mass surveillance friendly software? Decentralized software? What are you arguing? I'm completely lost there.
- zzzcpan 8y agoI'm arguing that end-to-end encryption in a centralized app doesn't actually do better with regards to any threat from its threat model as compared to client-to-server encryption. It's sort of a fallacy, centralization cancels out any benefits that end-to-end encryption is supposed to bring over client-to-server encryption. So "but they have" or "don't have end-to-end encryption" cannot be an argument.