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And yet for all its supposed innovation, web brutalistism still looks overly pretentious as it revels in its 'aesthetic' of psuedo-Swiss minimalism. I'm sick o

by tomc1985 9y ago

And yet for all its supposed innovation, web brutalistism still looks overly pretentious as it revels in its 'aesthetic' of psuedo-Swiss minimalism. I'm sick of the garbage that designers these days pass off as 'form'. It ruins computing. Sci-fi showed us the future was large screens full of data and smart humans doing meaningful shit with it... but reality is we pay beaucorp bucks to waste 98% of a 4K, 9-megapixel display on a royal purple background with a couple of words in white.

mnemonicsloth 9y ago
Beaucorp! What a great new word. One of the world-spanning megacorporations from William Gibson but decorated in a Beaux-Arts style.
- tomc1985 9y ago
  It's an old word, afaik. Means 'mega' in this context. Also I mispelled it :D
  - khedoros1 9y ago
    I think they know that, and were riffing off the misspelling ;-) It's about an 800 year old word in French. Wiktionary claims that it was imported to US English primarily by GIs returning from the Vietnam War. I'd assume that it would come more directly from French, in other forms of English.
    - code_duck 9y ago
      I recall this being brought up by a guy who had been a helicopter mechanic in the Army... he believed it was a Vietnamese word spelled ‘buku’, and it took me some time to realize he meant beaucoup. Example in context: “They’re making buku bucks over there.”
      - khedoros1 9y ago
        My father was in the Marine Corps; about a decade too young for Vietnam, but I kind of assume he picked it up from Marines who'd been in the service at the appropriate time. From my perspective, for a long time it was just another one of those weird-sounding words that only Dad used (which turned out to be French, German, and Spanish).
  - andrewflnr 9y ago
    I think the point is it's a beautiful misspelling.
joqje09309 9y ago
There's something odd about being sick of humans alive today doing their thing (designers), and thinking of sci-fi full of fictional humans, with fake ui's made by ... designers alive today... as somehow the "right way"
golergka 9y ago
Consumer products vs professional products. Time the user is willing to invest in learning your interface. USS Enterprise was designer for people who would learn it for several years in star fleet academy. Airbnb is designed to become more clear and obvious than booking.com in two first minutes the user sees it. The same user that might be routinely using software like Emacs or Ableton Live or Final Cut Pro or 3ds max studio or AutoCad in his professional life.
hn0 9y ago
Sadly, those space wasters apparently sell better on touch devices, which is why they’re so popular. Most designers also prefer them. The alternative of information dense interfaces is generally prefered by hackers, which are accustomed to scary things like tables and lines of code that will make the average user run for the hills. We want magazine covers and picture books, not War and Peace.

mnemonicsloth 9y ago

Beaucorp! What a great new word. One of the world-spanning megacorporations from William Gibson but decorated in a Beaux-Arts style.

tomc1985 9y ago
It's an old word, afaik. Means 'mega' in this context. Also I mispelled it :D
- khedoros1 9y ago
  I think they know that, and were riffing off the misspelling ;-) It's about an 800 year old word in French. Wiktionary claims that it was imported to US English primarily by GIs returning from the Vietnam War. I'd assume that it would come more directly from French, in other forms of English.
  - code_duck 9y ago
    I recall this being brought up by a guy who had been a helicopter mechanic in the Army... he believed it was a Vietnamese word spelled ‘buku’, and it took me some time to realize he meant beaucoup. Example in context: “They’re making buku bucks over there.”
    - khedoros1 9y ago
      My father was in the Marine Corps; about a decade too young for Vietnam, but I kind of assume he picked it up from Marines who'd been in the service at the appropriate time. From my perspective, for a long time it was just another one of those weird-sounding words that only Dad used (which turned out to be French, German, and Spanish).
- andrewflnr 9y ago
  I think the point is it's a beautiful misspelling.

joqje09309 9y ago

There's something odd about being sick of humans alive today doing their thing (designers), and thinking of sci-fi full of fictional humans, with fake ui's made by ... designers alive today... as somehow the "right way"

golergka 9y ago

Consumer products vs professional products. Time the user is willing to invest in learning your interface. USS Enterprise was designer for people who would learn it for several years in star fleet academy. Airbnb is designed to become more clear and obvious than booking.com in two first minutes the user sees it. The same user that might be routinely using software like Emacs or Ableton Live or Final Cut Pro or 3ds max studio or AutoCad in his professional life.

hn0 9y ago

Sadly, those space wasters apparently sell better on touch devices, which is why they’re so popular. Most designers also prefer them. The alternative of information dense interfaces is generally prefered by hackers, which are accustomed to scary things like tables and lines of code that will make the average user run for the hills. We want magazine covers and picture books, not War and Peace.