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I do that all the time without any problems. What issues have you seen with it?

by CaptSpify 8y ago

nunodonato 8y ago
marked as SPAM. I get that a lot
- squarefoot 8y ago
  Not good at all. This should happen only if one of your servers has been compromised and spits out spam that gets logged by Google. Does unmarking your email as spam by the recipient work? If not that would be an indication it's intentional.
  - written 8y ago
    Most of the big providers are shit, I wish I could shame them, but alas, I can not. If I'm responding to e-mail from their users, I expect at least my initial response will get through. You really don't need any fancy crap like DKIM/SPF/nice IP addresses database/AI/bayes/etc. in this case to make the decision if e-mail is legitimate. All my responses contain randomly generated ID of the message I'm responding to that nobody else than the sender and the intended recipient (me) can know. If it matches one of the e-mails their user sent me, say within a reasonable timeframe, and it's a first response or so, it is almost certainly genuine. It just shows how little they give a crap about their own users, if they don't make such a simple check to make sure that their users can get responses to all sent emails. Instead of making e-mail work, they're inventing bullshit like this new "expiring email" thing and making redesigns nobody asks for.
- CaptSpify 8y ago
  Interesting. I can't say that I ever get that, and I email Gmail a ton. I'm curious if Google outlines how to prevent getting considered SPAM or not. It could be that I've had my domain for >5 years as well.
- _o_ 8y ago
  DKIM sign emails and fix reverse resolving. Had that problem too, I was highly pissed off that DKIM signed emails were still regarded as spam, even if there is no way to forge them until I fixed reverse resolve. Anyway, I dont know anyone relevant to me who is using gmail. Most of them are tehnical and they all stopped using gmail years ago, also more and more people are moving to self hosted solutions.

I do that all the time without any problems. What issues have you seen with it?

nunodonato 8y ago

marked as SPAM. I get that a lot

squarefoot 8y ago
Not good at all. This should happen only if one of your servers has been compromised and spits out spam that gets logged by Google. Does unmarking your email as spam by the recipient work? If not that would be an indication it's intentional.
- written 8y ago
  Most of the big providers are shit, I wish I could shame them, but alas, I can not. If I'm responding to e-mail from their users, I expect at least my initial response will get through. You really don't need any fancy crap like DKIM/SPF/nice IP addresses database/AI/bayes/etc. in this case to make the decision if e-mail is legitimate. All my responses contain randomly generated ID of the message I'm responding to that nobody else than the sender and the intended recipient (me) can know. If it matches one of the e-mails their user sent me, say within a reasonable timeframe, and it's a first response or so, it is almost certainly genuine. It just shows how little they give a crap about their own users, if they don't make such a simple check to make sure that their users can get responses to all sent emails. Instead of making e-mail work, they're inventing bullshit like this new "expiring email" thing and making redesigns nobody asks for.
CaptSpify 8y ago
Interesting. I can't say that I ever get that, and I email Gmail a ton. I'm curious if Google outlines how to prevent getting considered SPAM or not. It could be that I've had my domain for >5 years as well.
_o_ 8y ago
DKIM sign emails and fix reverse resolving. Had that problem too, I was highly pissed off that DKIM signed emails were still regarded as spam, even if there is no way to forge them until I fixed reverse resolve. Anyway, I dont know anyone relevant to me who is using gmail. Most of them are tehnical and they all stopped using gmail years ago, also more and more people are moving to self hosted solutions.